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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It's not my opinion, it just isn't equivalent. Men and women are not minority groups. Black men are, trans women are, etc. So representation for them in all kinds of acting is important.
    This is an opinion in every single aspect. Factual reality is very different. And that's also very discriminatory towards men, women and Christians.

    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    Your beliefs hurt others. Beliefs that hurt others are not okay to have. I would've thought this would be known by everyone after WW2, but then again, that would be overestimating the mental prowess of your average 'phobe.
    Your beliefs hurt others, too. Especially me and my family. Beliefs that hurt others are not okay to have. I would've thought this would be known by everyone after WW2, but then again, that would be overestimating the mental prowess of your average 'they.'
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    This is an opinion in every single aspect. Factual reality is very different. And that's also very discriminatory towards men, women and Christians.
    It's not. Equivalency is either there or it isn't.
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  3. #173
    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It's not. Equivalency is either there or it isn't.
    Straight White Christians (especially men) are the biggest minority, most persecuted and least represented in just about everything today. That's a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Straight White Christians (especially men) are the biggest minority, most persecuted and least represented in just about everything today. That's a fact.


    You all know better than to take bait this cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Straight White Christians (especially men) are the biggest minority, most persecuted and least represented in just about everything today. That's a fact.
    That's nice, but it's not the equivalency I was discussing nor is it relevant. When Sena takes the role of a white Christian man, then you would have a case. Sena took the role of a woman of no particular religious denomination AFAIK. So not a minority group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Straight White Christians (especially men) are the biggest minority, most persecuted and least represented in just about everything today. That's a fact.
    Lmao. No. Just no. You claim persecution when you aren't able to force your beliefs on others. That is not persecution.

    And I'm sure you'll say "but they are trying to force their beliefs on us" and no, no they aren't.

    They are only trying to be treated equally.

    I was waiting for this argument to come up, because I knew you couldn't stop yourself from saying you are persecuted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    This is an opinion in every single aspect. Factual reality is very different. And that's also very discriminatory towards men, women and Christians.



    Your beliefs hurt others, too. Especially me and my family. Beliefs that hurt others are not okay to have. I would've thought this would be known by everyone after WW2, but then again, that would be overestimating the mental prowess of your average 'they.'
    People believe in accepting one another, for Identity or whoever you're interested in how does that effect you?

    I'm sorry that you feel hurt over people being able to feel happy and comfortable with themselves must be real tough on you.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 01-20-2024 at 08:57 AM.

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    Just a last general comment for today...SE is a progressive company. They always have been. If you're expecting some kind of knee bending over Sena because she tweeted about wanting more trans people playing trans roles, you are wasting your time because SE likely agrees with that. After all they hire trans people. So there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post


    You all know better than to take bait this cheap.
    Narrator: They did not, in fact, know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Just a last general comment for today...SE is a progressive company. They always have been. If you're expecting some kind of knee bending over Sena because she tweeted about wanting more trans people playing trans roles, you are wasting your time because SE likely agrees with that. After all they hire trans people. So there's that.
    Ah I love it, so when it's a trans person talking badly of cis, it's okay, but the opposite is not

    progressive people are indeed something else

    As a bisexual person I will stay the hell away from this "queer community" yall speak so much about, or the LGBTQIA community, yall are weird and like a cult
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