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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Why are you being such a weirdo?
    Is this your "my happiness is your happiness?" I feel like I've seen you repeat this ten times across four threads.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Why are you being such a weirdo?

    It's weird you don't know that men can have feminine voices, and women can have masculine voices, or more importantly, think that men can't speak or sing in falsetto and that you think it's a woman only thing.

    Or the weirdest thing of all, that you're insisting that Sena isn't a woman. Trans women are women.

    Stop being a weirdo for attention, all you'll get is confused looks.
    I can tell that you are young and idealistic. It is an important factor not only in voice acting, but theater, to be able to hit certain ranges and sounds. I hate to be bearer of bad news, but the VA has a very stereotypical flamboyant voice that comes off more parody rather than genuine. It would be fine if that was what they were going for, but based on the other languages, the VA does not have the capability or talent to hit the same characterization as the others. Whether it was because of a miscast, nepostism, we can call it whatever we want...the VA did not match the feeling of the character.

    Considering my closeness to the acting industry, I know exactly what the problem is. I just know a lot of people get triggered for saying the truth when it's really how voice acting works. I would not cast Scarlett Johansen to play Tony Stark nor would I cast Samuel L Jackson to play Ms. Marvel. Just like actors do not fit for characters, same thing applies for voice acting.
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  3. #183
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    Medulla Vespertine
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    As a Mexican, I am offended by Wuk Lamat's mockery of our accent when speaking English. Pinchi Pendeja, que se calle su boca.
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  4. #184
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    I can tell that you are young and idealistic. It is an important factor not only in voice acting, but theater, to be able to hit certain ranges and sounds. I hate to be bearer of bad news, but the VA has a very stereotypical flamboyant voice that comes off more parody rather than genuine. It would be fine if that was what they were going for, but based on the other languages, the VA does not have the capability or talent to hit the same characterization as the others. Whether it was because of a miscast, nepostism, we can call it whatever we want...the VA did not match the feeling of the character.

    Considering my closeness to the acting industry, I know exactly what the problem is. I just know a lot of people get triggered for saying the truth when it's really how voice acting works. I would not cast Scarlett Johansen to play Tony Stark nor would I cast Samuel L Jackson to play Ms. Marvel. Just like actors do not fit for characters, same thing applies for voice acting.
    For someone who has "closeness to the acting industry" you sure were obviously and objectively wrong about men not having a falsetto.

    Perhaps before you call someone else "young and idealistic" you should make sure you're not miserably inept at lying convincingly.

    What a weirdo.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    For someone who has "closeness to the acting industry" you sure were obviously and objectively wrong about men not having a falsetto.
    Falsetto AND feminine. I'm sure I put that there. I know it can be hard to miss some words now and again. The forum's colors are not the best.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brignadalee View Post
    Cool beans, what are you doing in an appreciation thread other than to champion your distaste? Disagree all you want but this isn't a debate thread. Move along.
    I've praised the Japanese VA since she did the best she could given the character. Good on her for not being entirely overshadowed by Ono Daisuke
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  7. #187
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    Falsetto AND feminine. I'm sure I put that there. I know it can be hard to miss some words now and again. The forum's colors are not the best.
    Falsetto can be used by both male and female singers in songs almost interchangeably because falsetto is so high pitched, I could provide a number of examples of falsetto singing without showing the singer and you would be hard pressed to know which is which.

    However, I think it's also important to point out that falsetto itself has next to nothing to do with the VA of Wuk Lamat, as the German, Japanese, and English VN's do not use falsetto.

    Which again, is showing you don't know what you're talking about.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Falsetto can be used by both male and female singers in songs almost interchangeably because falsetto is so high pitched, I could provide a number of examples of falsetto singing without showing the singer and you would be hard pressed to know which is which.

    However, I think it's also important to point out that falsetto itself has next to nothing to do with the VA of Wuk Lamat, as the German, Japanese, and English VN's do not use falsetto.

    Which again, is showing you don't know what you're talking about.
    They do not need to considering they are all women. The english voice actor...is not. Which is why they come across as a very flamboyant gay man.
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  9. #189
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    They do not need to considering they are all women. The english voice actor...is not. Which is why they come across as a very flamboyant gay man.
    For someone who claims to be close to the acting industry your exposure to voices is surprisingly limited and unimpressive.

    You DO know there are a number of characters that were voiced by people opposite from the character's sex? You do know that again- many people have androgynous voices.

    For someone claiming to be an expert you sure are a weirdo with no exposure to the thing you claim to be an expert in.

    For the record, Sena isn't speaking in Falsetto either, there was no reason for you to bring it up, and again, shows your complete lack of understanding of what you're claiming you know about.
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  10. #190
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    As I said...you are young and idealistic. I have nothing more to explain.
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