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  1. #161
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    Ghael Rehw-setlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog View Post
    Genuine question, as I've never been to mexico and I'm curious - what *are* authentic mexican tacos like?
    The traditional street is an assortment of meats that go from the traditional "pastor" meat (which is commonly beef roasted with pineapple) to more exotic like the eye or udders of bovines; all this is folded inside a small, soft tortilla that fits in the palm of an average adult person, and it's accompanied with celery, onion, lemon juice, and your pick of home made hot sauce. We also have the "made at home while you eat" variety that's just placing whatever you're gonna eat folded inside a soft but average sized tortilla, because why not.

    What Graha eats in the trailer is way closer to a quesadilla. The tacos al pastor from the game are made of flour tortilla, which makes them closer to "gringas" (yes, it's the name of a food, it's derogatory, and I'm sorry my country decided to name it that way). One would say it's a nitpick (and it is), but my mexican friends who play FFXIV were annoyed at the fact that, yet again, they got the tortilla and the presentation wrong, even though the Pastor part is spot on.

    I'm not making this up, we're... picky about the representation of tacos in media, it didn't use to be that huge of a deal but nowadays getting tacos wrong in foreign media is like blasphemy. It's kinda like how a dark joke can be funny at first, but keep repeating it and it becomes offensive. Except American's aren't doing it on purpose... it's like how everyone in the world loves Pizza, until you travel to Italy and say "what the ever loving fudge is this?".
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    Last edited by Aldath; 08-06-2024 at 02:49 AM. Reason: Duplicated some phrases.

  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldath View Post
    The traditional street is an assortment of meats that go from the traditional "pastor" meat (which is commonly beef roasted with pineapple) to more exotic like the eye or udders of bovines; all this is folded inside a small, soft tortilla that fits in the palm of an average adult person, and it's accompanied with celery, onion, lemon juice, and your pick of home made hot sauce. We also have the "made at home while you eat" variety that's just placing whatever you're gonna eat folded inside a soft but average sized tortilla, because why not.

    What Graha eats in the trailer is way closer to a quesadilla. The tacos al pastor from the game are made of flour tortilla, which makes them closer to "gringas" (yes, it's the name of a food, it's derogatory, and I'm sorry my country decided to name it that way). One would say it's a nitpick (and it is), but my mexican friends who play FFXIV were annoyed at the fact that, yet again, they got the tortilla and the presentation wrong, even though the Pastor part is spot on.

    I'm not making this up, we're... picky about the representation of tacos in media, it didn't use to be that huge of a deal but nowadays getting tacos wrong in foreign media is like blasphemy. It's kinda like how a dark joke can be funny at first, but keep repeating it and it becomes offensive. Except American's aren't doing it on purpose... it's like how everyone in the world loves Pizza, until you travel to Italy and say "what the ever loving fudge is this?".
    Oh, no. We're picky about some of our own cuisine and how it's represented in other places, too - it's why I asked, and I'm glad for the answer! Learned more from food from another country in this post than I did in the entirety of the DT MSQ and it's ceaseless waffling about food.
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  3. #163
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    At least she always stays loyal to the topic, which is about voice acting, unlike the same people who continuously got offended on someone else’s behalf over pronouns then got the previous thread closed. Or maybe it’s your intention? I don’t know.
    Please learn to stop lying.
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  4. #164
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    i find it funny that i caught up and now someone can admit that they're wrong that the accent is in fact forced. and look, there are people more knowledgeable about it than i (because they have heritage that is relevant) saying the same thing as me. that a person's heritage doesn't really matter if they never even experienced the culture. which would mean an accent is, in fact, forced.

    it's like for me to just randomly start performing a sean nós dance (a form of Irish dance) because i'm of Irish descent, but actually i am just generically step dancing. because i never learned how to sean nós and i have never integrated myself with my ancestry or it's traditions.

    i feel bad for people who are not happy with Bryer's performance because of how jarring and offensive it is. and to then have swathes of people wag their finger at you and tell you you're wrong. what a joke.
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    Last edited by IttyBittyShark; 08-06-2024 at 03:12 AM. Reason: re-wording

  5. #165
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    Man, I'm a white Californian and I was perturbed by the big flour tortilla tacos. It only got weirder when they had a whole cochinita pibil story arc all about culinary authenticity.
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  6. #166
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    Valedra Bailey
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    Adding my support for Sena Bryer here, I enjoyed Wuk as a character and she did a wonderful job Voice Acting.

    If you weren't aware, training your Voice to even reach where she's at in her transition can be super difficult depending on the person. To take that into a VA career where you're *constantly* speaking, I have nothing but respect for her putting herself out there. Simply pathetic how some people are treating Sena.
    It's ironic how people who scream 'woke' the loudest need to wake up and start being decent human beings.
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  7. #167
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    I liked Wuk Lamat's voice and her cute accent.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

  8. #168
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    Phelsarn Lumerais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    At least she always stays loyal to the topic, which is about voice acting, unlike the same people who continuously got offended on someone else’s behalf over pronouns then got the previous thread closed. Or maybe it’s your intention? I don’t know.
    You should stop being weird, this is something only a weirdo would say.
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  9. #169
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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brignadalee View Post
    Adding my support for Sena Bryer here, I enjoyed Wuk as a character and she did a wonderful job Voice Acting.

    If you weren't aware, training your Voice to even reach where she's at in her transition can be super difficult depending on the person. To take that into a VA career where you're *constantly* speaking, I have nothing but respect for her putting herself out there. Simply pathetic how some people are treating Sena.
    It's ironic how people who scream 'woke' the loudest need to wake up and start being decent human beings.
    Happy for you, glad you enjoyed her as a character and enjoyed her va.

    I respectfully have to disagree with you. I disliked everything about Wuk Lamat. and that includes the va. There is such a thing as overexposure and that's what we got. In a picture it's not a problem, you simply put it aside and look at the next picture. In a game, where you are an active participant, it's impossible to put it aside, because she is shoved in our face every 6 seconds. Even outside the MSQ, it's about her. Sidequests revolve around her, it drove me bonkers. And the va, was just flat, lacked depth and emotion. But mind you, this is my personal opinion. Nothing to do with "woke" or any other flavour of the month word.
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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

  10. #170
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    Valedra Bailey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antharaes View Post
    Happy for you, glad you enjoyed her as a character and enjoyed her va.

    I respectfully have to disagree with you. I disliked everything about Wuk Lamat. and that includes the va. There is such a thing as overexposure and that's what we got. In a picture it's not a problem, you simply put it aside and look at the next picture. In a game, where you are an active participant, it's impossible to put it aside, because she is shoved in our face every 6 seconds. Even outside the MSQ, it's about her. Sidequests revolve around her, it drove me bonkers. And the va, was just flat, lacked depth and emotion. But mind you, this is my personal opinion. Nothing to do with "woke" or any other flavour of the month word.
    Cool beans, what are you doing in an appreciation thread other than to champion your distaste? Disagree all you want but this isn't a debate thread. Move along.
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