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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    It's just the same thing as Feo Ul all over again.

    People hated on that VA for being "fake Scottish" (the VA is Scottish) or hating the sound of her and loudly proclaiming they were switching to the Japanese version. Then the loud voices tired themselves out and no one talked about it again.


    OP kept using the "censored" and mentioned how long they've been paying SE so it's probably a mix of entitlement and subconscious feelings towards the VA's identity. It could've been more consistent but I don't think the voice work was otherwise particularly noteworthy for being good or bad. If it wasn't for the VA's identity, the backlash wouldn't be as much as it is.

    Not sure where the OP is getting "offensive caricature" from either. The voice just sounds "generic exotic" and the character is a 6ft tall fantasy cat woman so I'm not sure how she's supposed to sound. The only other character from Tural that we've talked to is voiced by an Icelandic person and is Wuk Lamat's childhood friend.

    I guess SE needs to make everyone "generic BBC English" no matter where their character came from or what their background is or else people will come to the forums over and over asking to be heard from the manager.
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    A reminder nobody had a single problem with the voice in trailer and prior to full trailer people even correctly guessed based off of voice that the character speaking is fem hroth. Isn't it weird how all the hate only started pouring in when VA name was revealed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    A reminder nobody had a single problem with the voice in trailer and prior to full trailer people even correctly guessed based off of voice that the character speaking is fem hroth. Isn't it weird how all the hate only started pouring in when VA name was revealed?
    I wouldn't say nobody had a single problem, but there is certainly some degree of truth to that statement unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    A reminder nobody had a single problem with the voice in trailer and prior to full trailer people even correctly guessed based off of voice that the character speaking is fem hroth. Isn't it weird how all the hate only started pouring in when VA name was revealed?
    That would be exceedingly difficult to prove either way, not in the least due to Square Enix disallowing comments on their uploaded videos and Twitter being prone to echo chambers due to how the algorithms there work.

    As I said as much in the previous thread - and speaking as a gay guy myself - one's sexuality or gender identity is not a shield against constructive criticism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    Apparently removing transphobic dogwhistles is now not wanting to have place for feedback and discussion lmao
    The moderators have proven perfectly capable in the past of removing individual problematic posts whilst leaving the rest of a thread intact. If the criteria for the deletion of a thread is a handful of inappropriate posts, then a lot of otherwise interesting threads would be completely lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That would be exceedingly difficult to prove either way, not in the least due to Square Enix disallowing comments on their uploaded videos and Twitter being prone to echo chambers due to how the algorithms there work.
    As someone who uses Twitter too much for her own good, the only echo chamber it is good at feeding is the anti-woke one. I'm constantly fed that kind of drivel despite not wanting to hear about it. Also, replies are, for the most part, exempt from the algorithm. There are a myriad of ways on that site to judge it with a certain degree of accuracy.



    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    As I said as much in the previous thread - and speaking as a gay guy myself - one's sexuality or gender identity is not a shield against constructive criticism.
    In this thread however - which is all I can judge you by, given that the old thread is gone, there's not been much at all in terms of constructive criticism from your side. You're absolutely right that it isn't a shield against constructive critique - but there's a difference between that and blatant transphobia.
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    I dont remember the voice in the trailer plus if it was there, there was no connection on who the voice was for. So yeah people not liking the voice for the character is something that can happen. I found the scenes that she acted in to be horrible, her pitch is fine, but the acting was amateaur at best and the accent (whatever accent she was trying to pull) was god awful. She sounded forced and flat as well as sounding like she couldnt even figure out how and who this character was.For this character and voice being a huge proponent of dawn trail has killed a lot of my enthusiasm for the game.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Hey guys, this is a new thread. Why are some of you still talking about transphobia?
    If you don't want these discussion to devolve into another of the deleted threads, stop bringing up the old threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Hey guys, this is a new thread. Why are some of you still talking about transphobia?
    If you don't want these discussion to devolve into another of the deleted threads, stop bringing up the old threads.
    A) because OP is intentionally misleading people about why the other threads are being deleted, acting like it's those daring to speak against things they don't like being silenced and not attacking someone's identity bring stopped.
    B) there's already been at least one display of such in this very thread already, and that's just from my own glance reading.
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    As a Kentuckian I do want to add people of color do live here, just like for the record.

    YMMV, its like a principle of life. I think Sena did a great job with Wuk Lamat, other people don't cool and fine, neither of us is objectively right because there's subjectivity to be had, but "I personally don't like her perfomance" isn't a reason to call for her firing.

    And yeah the past threads have been filled with such transphobic dog whistles and outright whistles that nuking the thread from orbit was probably the best option, much as I might prefer to see the threads locked and mods call the behavior out.
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    i wish ppl would shut up about this, its not even fair on her. her voice is no better or worse than any other side character and this is just complaint of the week

    her direction in EN specifically comes off as an offensive caricature,
    commentsd like this are just going to keep rubbing others the wrong way. shes literally just using her own normal voice for the role she was picked for. im so sick of seeing her attacked like this
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