again a bad endwalker trial

[Nestama]

Yeah, Trial is disappointing. It's just a in/out, left/right - right/left (six-blades is a lie. Just don't go in front of her), left or right, front line AoE and some AoE's around the place.

Something tells me they got the battle team who did the very disappointing Myth raids to work on this fight given how basic it is.

It should be noted that Odin and Yojimbo/Gilgamesh are harder than Asura by a looooong shot.

[Yuella]

It's a hildibrand trial. It's supposed to be a joke.

[Carin-Eri]

I quite enjoyed it myself.

I mean, firstly, it was (as Yuella said) a Hildibrand trial, not an MSQ one. How seriously are we supposed to take it?

Secondly - lets view this from the Lore perspective:
- The Warrior of Light has wealth of experience fighting/defeating Primals - more so than anyone else on Eoreza.
- There wasn't anything particularly unique or powerful about Asura's summoning as such. It certainly wasn't en-par with, for example, Shinryu, where a Dragon's eye, death and ritual suicide were what brought it into being.
- Vanhudi pretty much said that summoning Asura was a contingency plan!
- I can't think of any good reason why, after fighting the likes of Endsinger, Zenos, Athena and Zeromus, the Warrior of Light should have any difficulty fighting what was, essentially, just another Primal.

On balance, I feel the difficulty of the fight was pretty well balanced in terms of lore and the WoL's experience.
Lets be honest here - R/L points aside, they were never going to throw some uber-difficult boss this close to the end of an expansion, and certainly not as part of a Hildibrand side-quest story.

[Duskane]

My main disappointment is that this is the only Hildibrand trial without an orchestrion roll (Big Bridge), minion (The Dragon's Neck, Battle in the Big Keep), or barding (Kugane Ohashi). It also doesn't have an achievement despite being the last Hildibrand trial in the expansion (Big Keep, Kugane Ohashi), and the mount is just given to us after finishing the quest. How about making the mount's item drop from the trial so that there's replayability beyond getting the triple triad card?

my issue with it
no fun rewards for the trial besides the TT card (which i got on first run)

[Nestama]

It's a hildibrand trial. It's supposed to be a joke.

Yojimbo-Gilgamesh has more teeth than Asura. Heck I'd even argue Ultros and Typhon have more teeth (on their release). They have a boss with three faces and six arms, yet they don't even do much of anything with that at all. Just in/out/line, repeat that with big clone, left/right for "six-blade" and then left or right depending on the face (Thadalfus uses his masks more than Asura uses her faces). There's just... nothing there. HW Trials have more going on for them than Asura at this point :/

Basically, it's just disappointing that the battle team can't seem to get away from basic dungeon attacks and can't seem to do anything new or unique to make the fight actually interesting/unique.

[Supersnow845]

Asura is the first trial in a while that if they made that a dungeon boss I legit wouldn’t bat an eye

It’s the same problem as thelia, every boss, regardless of content just seems to be a dungeon level boss with the only variety coming in the number of players who are present

[CNitsah]

The only enemy on this fight is the server during the 6 blade attack. You often get hit despite you were clearly out by the time it started. So I can understand the difficulty criticism, but for locking you out? This is the most ridiculously easy relic to get, and a good part of the community complained about that, and this is still too much for you. Maybe a mmo is not for you in that case.

My main disappointment is that this is the only Hildibrand trial without an orchestrion roll (Big Bridge), minion (The Dragon's Neck, Battle in the Big Keep), or barding (Kugane Ohashi). It also doesn't have an achievement despite being the last Hildibrand trial in the expansion (Big Keep, Kugane Ohashi), and the mount is just given to us after finishing the quest. How about making the mount's item drop from the trial so that there's replayability beyond getting the triple triad card?

That what makes me very worried. They add the occasion to show us they understood what was the big complaint of the extension about, and still failed miserably. Despite all the complaints about lack of shelf-life of the content, they still choose to continue with that trendof not give incentives to redo the content. I really fear the next exploratory zone, because I can see them making one without any incentives to play it once you're done with the story. I'm still really worried with the direction the game is going.

[ThorneDynasty]

It's a hildibrand trial. It's supposed to be a joke.

"It's supposed to suck" is becoming a worryingly common defense from this fandom.

It's also nonsense - They clearly put a lot of effort into the trial visually, so you can't defend it as a little bonus extra thing SE duct taped together, small indie dev please understand. Why is it only the fight mechanics' design that's lacking? It's clearly not supposed to be a gag fight at the very least.

[Nestama]

The only enemy on this fight is the server during the 6 blade attack. You often get hit despite you were clearly out by the time it started.

If you never go in front of her, then the server is no longer an issue since you can just move into the right/left slash animation and then back to get ready for it a second time (I also have high ping).

"It's supposed to suck" is becoming a worryingly common defense from this fandom.

It's like people forget we're playing a game. I love that attacks are flashy and stuff, but I'd personally like to be playing a game that has me use my brain (even for easy content) that's more than just "don't stand in the AoE."

[Jojoya]

It's like people forget we're playing a game. I love that attacks are flashy and stuff, but I'd personally like to be playing a game that has me use my brain (even for easy content) that's more than just "don't stand in the AoE."

Unfortunately what's easy for one player isn't easy for another.

That's the drawback of MMORPGs. Most content is designed with the average player in mind and the average player is usually more interested in relaxing after a long day/week at work/school than in using their brain to think their way through content.

Hildibrand quests are for comic relief, not for thinking. They're practically a parody of the Warriors of Light who get through the MSQ because they're grouped with other players who know how to get things done and not because they themselves are capable.