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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    They do this constantly, yes. This is just a particularly efficient form, because we've all played the part of the game they're misremembering/misunderstanding/ignoring like, two days ago.
    Will you please stop discussing me as a person. It's weird. If you take issue with the things I say, discuss the things I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Yeah, the 6.x lead writer (or writers) is completely unknown, save that they're working under the same overall system and structure.

    My gut says it was a Daichi Hiroi story, because it generally seems to fit what he seems to put in, but that's just vibe. And given that going by 6.0's credits there's forty people that could be called 'writers', it's entirely possible that we just won't have any idea because it could be that unseen rest of the iceberg.
    If you sit through the 6.X credits, Hiroi is listed as the lead writer, with Ishikawa and Oda in supporting roles.

    A quick Google says Hiroi and Oda are collaborating on Dawntrail's Main Scenario, or Hiroi is otherwise going it alone. (Direction, not literally writing the whole thing.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
    Will you please stop discussing me as a person. It's weird. If you take issue with the things I say, discuss the things I say.
    I addressed all of your talking points, kiddo!

    tl;dr: The Scions as an organization no longer exist, the PC is going to Tural as a freelance mercenary, the contest not only allows but encourages it, Wuk Lamat has shown no ill intent, and Erenville has nothing bad to say about her (even if her boorish manners exasperate him).

    We're not a representative of the Eorzean government; we are, at best, a mid-level Grand Company officer acting without orders, and the story is framed very much as us acting in the capacity of a freelance mercenary. The "colonizer" argument makes zero sense; we aren't going there to prepare Tural for colonization or install a puppet ruler, but to support a rightful claimant to the throne who asked us to help her in a culturally appropriate and permissible manner. We have no clue what her policies are, but given Wuk Lamat's exuberant and outgoing personality and condemnation of warmongering I have a very hard time believing she would be a bad choice, inexperience with ruling notwithstanding.

    As a freelance mercenary, the PC is free to support (or not support) any claimant to the throne they choose. Furthermore, we have no idea what this contest actually entails, and however powerful the PC may be their martial might isn't likely to be enough to win right out; if that were the case there wouldn't be much of a story.

    I... don't know how or why you think the PC acting in the capacity of a freelance mercenary constitutes colonization. I'm genuinely confused. The rest is just paranoia.
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    Last edited by Cilia; 01-19-2024 at 01:19 PM. Reason: Culture, kiddos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post

    I addressed all of your talking points, kiddo!

    tl;dr: The Scions as an organization no longer exist, the PC is going to Tural as a freelance mercenary, the contest not only allows but encourages it, Wuk Lamat has shown no ill intent, and Erenville has nothing bad to say about her (even if her boorish manners exasperate him).

    We're not a representative of the Eorzean government; we are, at best, a mid-level Grand Company officer acting without orders, and the story is framed very much as us acting in the capacity of a freelance mercenary. The "colonizer" argument makes zero sense; we aren't going there to prepare Tural for colonization or install a puppet ruler, but to support a rightful claimant to the throne who asked us to help her. We have no clue what her policies are, but given Wuk Lamat's exuberant and outgoing personality and condemnation of warmongering I have a very hard time believing she would be a bad choice, inexperience with ruling notwithstanding.

    As a freelance mercenary, the PC is free to support (or not support) any claimant to the throne they choose. Furthermore, we have no idea what this contest actually entails, and however powerful the PC may be their martial might isn't likely to be enough to win right out; if that were the case there wouldn't be much of a story.

    I... don't know how or why you think the PC acting in the capacity of a freelance mercenary constitutes colonization. I'm genuinely confused. The rest is just paranoia.
    They see it that way cause points to their last reply to Mikko Venat did a bad that's so bad that they're allowing it to affect them to the point where they can't even think about trying to catch the Ruby Dargon (or whatever they set out to do in game) without going oh my law my WoL is an accomplice in Venat's doing a bad. You know the part of a story that normally sets up and isn't explored much if at all by the writers to explain why the world is the way it is at the time frame the story you are reading, watching or playing through is happening. That for the most part is normally again not explored as that is probably the part of the world building that has the most flaws and holes in it. As if one were to do so you will have a high chance of finding out that all the smart leaders of the past and or the present (depending on how far back the TDLR set up happened before the story takes place) were very stupid for dumb reasons. That even if you have qualms about you knew had to happen in some fashion for again the present story you are experiencing to take place.
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