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    Komoritane's Avatar
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    (Spoilers) The bird that made me quit MSQ permanently

    We meet a sentient, intelligent bird who is not threatening us in any way, and the party decides to just thoughtlessly kill it like some trophy prize to eat…the only reason given that it might have been inconveniencing some researchers.

    Then hypocritically, the hunters talk at dinner about their love of peace, and their disgust with the Garlean’s desire to bend the world to their will.

    Of course the hrothgar hunter doesn’t kill and eat her viera bunny friend, valuing only amorphous individuals and happy to subjugate all others.

    After some really progressive story like Elpis, I can’t help but just be very disappointed. What’s next, will we cook Alpha for dinner?

    This just highlights basically everything that’s horrible about humanity.
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    all life is built on the backs of other life, as we speak you digest millions of bacteria in your gut, you monster.
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    Alpha do look delicious
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Considering a sentinent bird was responsible for everything that is wrong with the universe and caused the Final Days, I think we're fully justified to fry up some roast chicken.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    It was a parrot repeating things. Not a sapient being.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    How do you define sentient? It was a big parrot mimicking sounds it had heard. I can't recall anyone ever considering parrots "sentient". I know they are considered the most intelligent birds but sentient is a different thing.

    It was clearly an invasive species to the area disrupting the native wildlife. What is the general approach to dealing with invasive species that are predators? Kill it so the native wildlife continues to prosper in its habitat.

    Didn't you notice the somewhat uncomfortable expressions on the faces of the Scions at the mention of getting to know Wuk via a hunt? Something that would be very natural to the real life predators that the Hrothgar are modeled after?

    Didn't you notice that the Scions only agreed to that hunt because of the requests from the researchers to discover what was upsetting the native wildlife?

    Sure, humanity is still messed up in a lot of ways but it feels like you're going out of your way to find reasons to be angry about what has happened in a fictional story. If that's the breaking point for you and the MSQ, it sounds like you've already been trying to come up with reasons to quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    How do you define sentient? It was a big parrot mimicking sounds it had heard. I can't recall anyone ever considering parrots "sentient". I know they are considered the most intelligent birds but sentient is a different thing.
    You're confusing sentient with intelligent.
    Almost all the things we kill in the game are sentient in some capacity. The robots perhaps not.
    Even the wild beasts the roam the land are likely able to conceive of joy and sorrow. They can think for themselves and do what they want. They are by the very definition: sentient.

    What they are not is intelligent. Smart and clever, surely. But higher level functions of communication and thought formulation and realizing the abstract, etc., that's the gift of us spoken. And the best tribes too!

    The bird is fair game as far as I'm concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    You're confusing sentient with intelligent.
    Actually, I was probably thinking sapient when I wrote that.
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    You've had the game since 2014 and most certainly killed hundreds of thousands npcs of all sorts...and you suddenly worry about a single pixel parrot?
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 01-18-2024 at 11:06 AM.

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    Rayne Wolfhart
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    Permanently you say? hmmm idk about that. You'll be back for Dawntrail lol Thanks for playing and hope you find another game to play .
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