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  1. #711
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    The saddest part about how People see DEI, is that they think it's forcing people to hire people for their otherness. Where it's specifically keeping them from not getting a job based on their otherness which has been applied to them by individuals who actively are bigoted and are using their positions to gate keep others from getting into fields they're interested in.


    What no one wants to realize is that DEI wouldn't exist if people would keep their personal feelings out of their work, out of politics, and out of business. It's that simple. You want DEI gone so bad? Create a world where people can't be discriminated against when they're obviously perfect for the position. Make a world where people aren't judged for the skin, sexuality, or religion.


    Oh wait, so half of the people in this thread are literally misgendering the new VA and seemingly only have issue with her because she's trans. Make it make sense.




    Like it's tiring that DEI, wokeness and anyform of none whiteness being the default is now just seen as this invasive plan to push an agenda. Like have ya'll ever thought that a lot of us are just tired of being treated different for who we are and just wanna have a fun job and thats it? Oh wait the laws we had to put into place to make people not judge us at the drop of a hat is now wrong because, it now collars people who would just say no even if you had the talent of experience baseline.
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  2. #712
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    All I wanted to do was come somewhere because I felt the lines were off, the accent felt forced, and saw others had the same opinion.

    I did not expect how bad this thread would be. Didn't even know she was trans when I first heard her lines...

    But it definitely does seem some people have an issue with her just because she is trans. Others don't like the voice because of the voice. And it's just a mess.
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  3. #713
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    I think the issue with this whole SBI is that you are going have to convince people that AC:Valhalla, GoW:R, Alan Wake 2, and Spiderman 2 (tangently also including Wolverine here) are bad games because of """""wokeness"""""

    I think the Steam curator's first thing is going to have to do that when some of these are very well sold games and what people would consider great games (maybe not Valhalla, but it sold well and is celebrated).
    Good point, Personally for me it was more how they've conducted themselves over these last months and for people who are anti-DEI that should be the primary attack vector rather than the perceived quality of the games they've worked on because that gets messy and subjective.
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  4. #714
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    I think the issue with this whole SBI is that you are going have to convince people that AC:Valhalla, GoW:R, Alan Wake 2, and Spiderman 2 (tangently also including Wolverine here) are bad games because of """""wokeness"""""

    I think the Steam curator's first thing is going to have to do that when some of these are very well sold games and what people would consider great games (maybe not Valhalla, but it sold well and is celebrated).
    It wouldn't matter, there is legit a thread a day about this company on the Steam forums for BG3 because folks are convinced somehow this group worked on that (successful) game despite there not being any actual evidence. The closest they got was some reference to WoTC, and since Larian got the licensing from WoTC, obviously SBI personally wrote the entire game and held Larian hostage until they agreed to include 'wokeness' - whatever that even means.

    The whole thing with SBI is absurd and transparent.
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  5. #715
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    It wouldn't matter, there is legit a thread a day about this company on the Steam forums for BG3 because folks are convinced somehow this group worked on that (successful) game despite there not being any actual evidence. The closest they got was some reference to WoTC, and since Larian got the licensing from WoTC, obviously SBI personally wrote the entire game and held Larian hostage until they agreed to include 'wokeness' - whatever that even means.

    The whole thing with SBI is absurd and transparent.
    Even if what they are saying was true, and SBI had an active role in writing the story of BG3 - wouldnt that just be a vote of confidence from gamers as the game's story is considered very good?

    Unless we are literally going to rewrite history and say its now bad because SBI is involved.
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  6. #716
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Oh wait, so half of the people in this thread are literally misgendering the new VA and seemingly only have issue with her because she's trans. Make it make sense.
    "Half of the people" you mean the 3 or 4 people who did and copped a ban for it and never posted again?

    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Like have ya'll ever thought that a lot of us are just tired of being treated different for who we are and just wanna have a fun job and thats it?
    Who is us? you don't speak for me nor do you for all the various flavours of minority.
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  7. #717
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    Even if what they are saying was true, and SBI had an active role in writing the story of BG3 - wouldnt that just be a vote of confidence from gamers as the game's story is considered very good?

    Unless we are literally going to rewrite history and say its now bad because SBI is involved.
    Of course, which is why none of the complaints about SBI survive even the slightest bit of critical thought.

    But who needs critical thinking when we can just be mad at some perceived 'threat'?

    Even the folks suggesting SBI is strongarming developers or threatening consumers are twisting comments and events so far out of context and reality I'm genuinely shocked Yshtola didn't just use them to send light to the thirteenth.
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  8. #718
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post

    Even the folks suggesting SBI is strongarming developers or threatening consumers are twisting comments and events so far out of context and reality I'm genuinely shocked Yshtola didn't just use them to send light to the thirteenth.
    https://twitter.com/GamesNosh/status...02262017183761 doesn't need to be twisted at all she is legit suggesting strongarming as a tactic.
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  9. #719
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    https://twitter.com/GamesNosh/status...02262017183761 doesn't need to be twisted at all she is legit suggesting strongarming as a tactic.
    Hate to be that person, but I would need the full clip to get full reference.
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  10. #720
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    Hate to be that person, but I would need the full clip to get full reference.
    How dare you ask for more context. :^)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfMsxjWgUbI&t=1495s
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