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  1. #631
    Player HollowedDoll's Avatar
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    You shall not hold an opinion different from mine, I shall smite thee with meaningless buzzword!
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  2. #632
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    I was wondering what this whole thing was about, because I could not for the life of me remember any character named Wuk Lomat. They had to have been that forgettable.

    But then i happened to be walking around in Sharlean and saw the character there... and I was like.. OMG that character was as annoying a Jar Jar Binks. You know, the one they had to cut out portions of it because people found it that annoying.

    I think I agree with the fact they need a new voice actor for that one. This current VA is just bad to the point of annoying.
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  4. #633
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    Bump a nearly month old thread to complain about activism and push the conspiracy that she was hired because of nepotisim?
    No conspiracies here. Sweet Baby Inc. is a DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) consultancy group. Their CEO also gives speeches at the GDC (Game Developers Conference) to teach other developers and consultancy groups to use Scare/Intimidation tactics to get their changes implemented. How exactly is still debated, though there are people from the industry stepping forward as whistleblowers currently.

    Now I recognize this is just one such group. But this group in particular, Does have Square Enix under their clientele.
    So this is possibly relevant.

    Especially when your "sensitivity reader" and "game writer" for "diversity, equity, and inclusion" apparently loves talking racist shit on twitter, and how they want to abort an entire race off our planet. (Spoiler alert, it's not POC.)

    So we have the fact that Square Enix are clients of Sweet Baby Inc. People clearly are noticing something's off about this character, or you wouldn't hear people chiming in here. Upto page 63 no less. You're free to have your own opinions, and I didn't state anything definitive. But this does look like a red flag to me if you tally in Sena Bryer's activism history on Twitter.

    Where, if you read what she says. By her very own logic, she should step down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    Lmao, he has said something like that?
    Thank you DrFroster for Linking the post. That's the one I was referring to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    I don't know if Square Enix will fail in 10 years, somehow...some way they always seem to bounce back once they pull their desperation card.

    I sometimes get this feeling of Apathy from them until at the last minute.
    "Apathy until the last minute" sounds very accurate. And this isn't their first time, how long can they keep slouching on like this? They've clearly got the talent. Downsize, get a different CEO. And focus on quality. And give Yoko more money to do stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    You shall not hold an opinion different from mine, I shall smite thee with meaningless buzzword!
    These kids just can't stand people having actual discussions and try to derail it with buzzwords. Golden tip; Do not feed the trolls

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  5. #634
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    Small update here, since Square Enix made a deal with Microsoft.

    Since the market has found out about the "DEI" (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) scam, where it's more like forced inclusivity. It seems after their meetup at the GDC (Games Developer Convention), they're trying to change the language to not get caught, again.

    So we have new examples like DEIB, the B standing for Belonging. And Microsoft creating a new 'framework' on how to keep inserting "DEI" practises.

    (Source link)

    Clearly they didn't like a lot of the consumers realizing it was 'forced' representation. So after the GDC, they added new term they now chose to describe their inclusion with 'intentionality.'

    (Source Link)

    These changes are intentional alright, but far from organic. Whilst they claim they do not mandate these guidelines. But instead, they'll make sweeping changes at the studio they partner with.
    • Hiring of a DEI director
    • Hiring of consulting firm to gender balance and review hiring/promotion policies.
    • Hiring of Sweet Baby Inc. to work on the published games.

    This last bit seems to sort out, as Sweet Baby Inc. has Square Enix in their client list. And this voice actor was likely the result of a 'gender balance.'

    Read more about this journalistic uncovery Here
    and proof pictures of how they've race swapped characters.
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    Last edited by LilithRose; 03-31-2024 at 12:13 PM.
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  6. #635
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    gibberish
    Maybe you should make your own faux outrage thread rather than bump this one every time you're spooked by "the woke"
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    This topic is to criticise the voice actor (or disagree with the OP). Please stay on topic Lilith and stop spreading propaganda.
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  8. #637
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    The Voice Actor did fine, and if you got an ear for your own language you can hear it improves, Wuk Lamath is a foreign Cat that speaks another native language, so have to adapt, like humans, you will get better if you live in a country with the language you are trying to learn, but you will still be stuck on some of the bugs forever, including accents.

    You can go from New York to Alabama and listen to the differences....

    No one Rips on Arnold Schwarzennegger for an instance, and he has done quite well being stuck on his accent and weird english?
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  9. #638
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    Maybe you should make your own faux outrage thread rather than bump this one every time you're spooked by "the woke"
    I'm not sure what you're talking about, you're the only one using the word 'woke' here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    This topic is to criticise the voice actor (or disagree with the OP). Please stay on topic Lilith and stop spreading propaganda.
    Since when is news on a scandal 'propaganda?' I have linked all my sources for good measure, added detailed description showing Square Enix is a client of both Microsoft and Sweet Baby Inc, their way of working, and how this 'could' explain the Nepotism people are suspecting with this voice actor. This is completely on topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    The Voice Actor did fine, and if you got an ear for your own language you can hear it improves, Wuk Lamath is a foreign Cat that speaks another native language, so have to adapt, like humans, you will get better if you live in a country with the language you are trying to learn, but you will still be stuck on some of the bugs forever, including accents.

    You can go from New York to Alabama and listen to the differences....

    No one Rips on Arnold Schwarzennegger for an instance, and he has done quite well being stuck on his accent and weird english?
    Are you kidding me? Everyone rips on Schwarznegger's accent! Even you just called it weird English.
    The difference is however, it's his own accent, so he's not faking it. And he rolls with it. It's part of his characters
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  10. #639
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    Lilith's posts are on topic, she's not spreading propaganda simply because you disagree with the message.
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  11. #640
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    Since when is news on a scandal 'propaganda?' I have linked all my sources for good measure, added detailed description showing Square Enix is a client of both Microsoft and Sweet Baby Inc, their way of working, and how this 'could' explain the Nepotism people are suspecting with this voice actor. This is completely on topic.
    Just because you hate diversity does not mean someone from a minority group got a job because there's some diversity cabal.

    And posting a link to some random twitter account and doing this...



    just because a company is working with a company that advises on diversity, is not journalism.

    I get that you REALLY want your gamergate 2 conspiracy to be a thing, but again, if you feel you must spread the bad word here, make your own thread for it.
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    Last edited by DrForester; 03-31-2024 at 09:58 PM.

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