[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[Isseki]

And will justly be ignore as they have no relevance to the thread as well and just come off as looking for a reason to attack/hate her, the person and not the voice acting (like, have you actually seen anything Sena has done outside of just a few cherry picked tweets?). Weird how that's been my goal the whole time, hey?
Also, the bad performance is your opinion, which is fine. Much like how my opinion being "she was fine, despite some moments" which I blame entirely on the voice director and what VA's in general have to deal with (literally just a script. Don't even get to see the scene, hear dialogue of other languages to get an idea. Entirely reliant on the director and if they do not build the scene, then you get awkward moments) is fine.

Also, Thancred and Y'shtola sounded weird too, right? Like the scene before the 95 dungeon (I think? Could be more moments) Thancred just did not sound like... well, Thancred.

People dont look for a reason to hate on the VA, the VA did that by performing extremly poorly while also being like 80% of the Dialogue. The VA being toxic is just the icing on the cake for most people.

People stated multiple times that the VA sounds extremely flat and has no variety in emotions whatsoever. Some also dislike the VAs ''fake accent''. Which btw also doesnt really make sense (same for the bunboy) when the most other and older citiziens sound more fluid. *shrugs*

[Zakuyia]

Yeah, it is a circlejerk echo chamber thread

Also I don't think you even know what evidence I was asking for at this point or who I was responding to. You just jumped in guns blazing looking to take a dig at someone who does not agree with you looking for any reason to hate a VA outside of their performance.

Nest my guy i appriciate the good fight but do you really want mediocre voice acting in a game you sub for and bought? Im not judging im not that harsh ,but I will say being a jerk doesn't help. Look i like being just as rude as next person ,but if ppl having a civil debate and throwing evidence out to back up claims u might wanna throw something useful out to defend ur case cause right now I'm seeing a manbaby crying about nothing and doing a whole lotta nothing.

[RabendaShin]

And will justly be ignore as they have no relevance to the thread as well and just come off as looking for a reason to attack/hate her, the person and not the voice acting (like, have you actually seen anything Sena has done outside of just a few cherry picked tweets?). Weird how that's been my goal the whole time, hey?

Thank you for engaging like this now.

I have seen her other work on official voice reels, which she posted herself. It had similar issues as her work for Wuk Lamat: flat delivery, no range. There were a few good roles in there though, but not main character worthy in my opinion. Side characters would be fine, but she can't carry the show.

There are plenty of public posts out there made by Sena Bryer which are fairly vile in their messaging. I have seen these posts, and shared them. They're not cherry picked. They are still clearly visible even now. As you keep saying - we should focus on the performance.

Also, the bad performance is your opinion, which is fine. Much like how my opinion being "she was fine, despite some moments" which I blame entirely on the voice director and what VA's in general have to deal with (literally just a script. Don't even get to see the scene, hear dialogue of other languages to get an idea. Entirely reliant on the director and if they do not build the scene, then you get awkward moments) is fine.

See my post here. It becomes less of an opinion when there are many other people, both professionals and non-professionals alike, who call her out for the same reasons. And to repeat myself, why did Koana's VA not have similar issues? If we can assume the fault lies with the voice director, then surely he would have the same performance issues as Sena.

If, in your opinion, it sounded fine - then that's that. I don't want to change your mind. Some people like apples, some people don't.

Also, Thancred and Y'shtola sounded weird too, right? Like the scene before the 95 dungeon (I think? Could be more moments) Thancred just did not sound like... well, Thancred.

I wholeheartedly agree. The usual British English cast sounded odd too. Y'shtola sounded as if she recorded her in a bathroom, which may as well be the case since she had so few lines.

Again, thank you for responding like this.

[Shibi]

...But I have to gush about the French voice, it actually floored me. I can't believe I'm saying this but ... the French VAs sound even better than the Japanese VAs for me. It's not just Wuk, but almost everyone sound miles better, especially toward the ends and during crisis, battles, dungeons .etc. The deliver has a sense of urgency that I feel sorely lack from the English VAs. Instead of the typical anime sweetie style in the Japanese voice, Sphene's French voice has a tint of ... majestic and regal to it. In another word, she sounds like actual royalty. And Wuk ... when she came in for the last scene after the final battle to bid us goodbye, she was ... good, Great even. There were an air of authority and maturity in her voice, it sounds like the kind of voice someone has after they have gone through great trial and tribulation. I had to pause and look at her character model and face again, and thought to my self "yep, this voice suit you well, you sound like a leader now!"

I still think Wuk's writing as a whole is so bad that even a god-like VA will not be able to save her character, but if people's first impression of her came from the French VA, there is a good chance it would have been less harsh.

Hmm, I am at the hand in for the 99 trial and pushing on my limits even with Japanese which I have had on since the Llama Saddle, I'd not thought to try the French on Poochie, weird considering it's my husband's native language.

Thank you for the hint, anyway, it might give me strength to struggle those last few steps.

[WinterKipu]

You also can't blame the directors, they also have to keep within budget and schedule, you can't stay on a single line all day if that's the best the VA can do, and probably doesn't have the luxury of changing VAs if the don't like them, kinda like in bad movies you can't expect to have Marlon Brando's Godfather.

[Raven2014]

It was like listening to a fan dub.

Please don't insult fandub, many of them exceed official work in term of quality. For example when I saw this I thought it was an official promotion for Genshin, so my jaw dropped when I realize it's a fan production. And it's better than most thing on Crunchyroll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qERE4q0WoY8


Frankly, I think company should have someone one keep an eyes out on the indie scene and scout new talents, instead of paying premium for industrial disaster class performance. Maybe if they do that, they can cut down the cost of making game that they love to complain about so much.

[XPhobic76]

It's not only bad voice acting, it is insulting. I literally turned the game off when she started talking about tacos and didn't come back for days. Imagine a character with a fake Chinese accent talking about egg rolls or a fake black accent talking about how much they like fried chicken. It felt like I was being mocked.

[RabendaShin]

It's not only bad voice acting, it is insulting. I literally turned the game off when she started talking about tacos and didn't come back for days. Imagine a character with a fake Chinese accent talking about egg rolls or a fake black accent talking about how much they like fried chicken. It felt like I was being mocked.

Sometimes, it felt as if I was watching a South Park parody of Latino culture. I feel like this would also be a different avenue of critique for a new forum thread, as highlighted before:

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I mean if people are scared to do it, then I don't mind doing it. I just don't think I would be the right one, especially if asking for authentic voices. Someone from South America, so the Latin American culture, will have a stronger say due to the expansion representing them. A native Hispanic, or one who learned ESL, will have more impact and plus we who are not Hispanic cannot speak for them. I'm also newer, signed up because the MSQ and voices were so bad that I mass skipped after I got annoyed with Wuk Lamat.

Besides the objectively low quality of Sena Bryer's performance, highlighting its insensitivity/disingenuousness are serious talking points to take into consideration by the developers. I can't imagine it would change anything, but at least the insulting nature of the voice acting would become more visible.

[Isala]

Sometimes, it felt as if I was watching a South Park parody of Latino culture.

I mean, they did put a chick in it, and made her lame and...

[Aurelius2625]

I feel like it's on the producers and what not to SHOW the voice actors the kind of scene they are voicing. If you just hand me a script and tell me to read it, and I don't know the CONTEXT of what's going on bar some very small details, it's impossible for me to deliver what you need me to deliver. I need to SEE the scene to go, "ohhhhh, yeah, that's how it's supposed to sound". Some masters at their craft can naturally read a script and be like, "Oh yeah I need to have a strained voice here, as I'll be tired from lifting something heavy, etc..."

I think that this was just someone WAY in over their head and the person as Sena's agent probably just wanted them to have a good/high profile job and just threw them into a pool to be selected for something that they were NOT at all ready for. Some voice actors, like a lot of Genshin English VAs had their big break with Genshin and KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK. Others were heavy weights already, like Yuri Lowenthal, Keith Silverstein, etc... like I'm not surprised that Ray Chase did amazingly as Neuvillette. Although, this brings another example from Ray: he's amazing at what he does, but the VOICE DIRECTORS DID NOT TELL HIM THAT FOR HIS NORMAL ATTACKS HE IS WEILDING MAGIC PROJECTILES AND NOT PHYSICALLY HITTING THINGS WITH HIS CANE. So, when Ray did the voice over for the attacks, it's VERY funny because it seems like he's putting all his force into what looks like gentle swats of his hand. He wasn't TOLD or SHOWN what the animations would look like. He wanted to go back and do them again, but wasn't able to. So his sublime work on the voice lines is muddied by that lol.

He also was adamant on redoing some of Neuvillette's voicelines since he got to know the character better and felt that his more cold, distant first take wasn't suitable to the more emotional character that Neuvillette was.

POINT BEING: IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR VOICE DIRECTORS TO NOT LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED AND GIVE EVERY POSSIBLE BIT OF INFORMATION TO THE VOICE ACTOR IF THEY WANT A QUALITY PRODUCT. You can only deliver what you can deliver when the company gives you nothing.