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    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    "the post isn't 100% directed towards you", then don't reply directly to me, lol.

    At this point you're writing quite a bit again for something as simple as "I can't explain my argument".
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6412096

    Yes, my original post that you quoted was not addressed to you. And it's not that I can't explain my arguments, it's that you jumped into the discussion and did not understand what I was saying.

    On the subject of firing, this is just from randomly clicking around:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6405237

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6405258

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6406589

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6407669

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6409225

    I'd also note a lot of this thread is about the performance being good, being "fine", improving with time, debates over the state of Twitter, debates over how much the director matters, debates over what is transphobic and what isn't. And even if only 1 person called for or implied she should be fired, I would still be justified in noting that it isn't going to happen.

    In summary:

    - I never said a majority of people approve the voice. I said the voice actor remaining employed with no significant changes is the default, and it's the job of critics to change either her employment or her performance. So the burden of proof is on critics, yet there's no clear consensus the performance was bad.
    - People have called for her firing, and the odds of that are low because she has not done anything wrong and has not created any double standard by tweeting that more trans actors should be offered some roles and one major actor should voluntarily resign as a sign of solidarity.
    - If negative threads perform better than positive ones, it doesn't mean anything. The content of the posts are what matters and they demonstrate that posters go to critical / negative threads even to discuss positive or neutral feedback. Another interesting finding is that Both threads centered around "feedback" or "poor acting" have second post responses that double/nearly double the likes of the original posts.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6406328
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6405205
    On Twitter, this is called being ratio'd and is a bad sign for the original poster.
    - Despite your posts, I still hold these positions. Hope this helps
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 01-28-2024 at 04:43 AM.