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    Short but sweet. I'm not as keen on Wuk Lamat as some people, and sympathising with Erenville.

    MSQ and some cross-speculating with Fan Fest:

    The expanded world map that G'raha bought for the annex doesn't seem to show Solution Nine, adding to the likelihood that it's a currently unknown location we'll discover along the way. Still no reason to go assuming it or the lightning aspect of the area are anything unnatural until we're given more concrete reason to believe so.

    Maybe the ancient script in S9 isn't anything remarkable at all, just what Tural adopted as their common script.

    Also the glow on the new Manderville weapons reminds me of S9's colour scheme.

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    We now have a better picture of what we're going into with the contest, and can guess that the Miqo'te from the poster is Wuk Lamar's brother Koana, and his more western vibe might come from his time spent in Sharlayan.

    We know to expect four royal characters overall and that the "villain" is male; if the girl at the top of the poster is indeed the fourth claimant (as some others have speculated above) then that leaves Koana and the Mamool Ja as the two possibilities for the villain, and it seems a bit cliche for the ugly monster one to be the bad guy, so that would accuse Koana by deduction, but Wuk Lamat seems to speak far more fondly of him than would make sense for that scenario.

    That said, the girl has the vibe of being something more special and ethereal than just another claimant to the throne, so I would suspect that the would-be warlord claimant might not be on the poster at all.

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    I assume Koana is the one who has petitioned Thancred and Urianger, and has particular interest in Archons because he has been in Sharlayan for a while.

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    The business with Krile's letter is quite odd, with it being in the wrong script, but they still just say "oh, it must have been dictated to someone else" and never consider further? Why would a scribe be writing in the wrong language, unless it's deliberately communicating with a foreigner in the foreigner's language, in which case why not just say that from the start? "It's in Eorzean so it must have been written by a scribe, but the signature is definitely my father's" makes far more sense than starting off by saying it's not written by him.

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    We seriously caught a giant bird unknown to science and brought it into a hub of researchers to get turned into lunch? Okay...

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    G'raha's offer to stay behind and look after the Students is very generous of him, but doesn't line up with him being in the trailer. It seems an odd thing to do and then so immeduately undermine, so I'll be interested in the justification for it (even if it's "lol he's not coming, we just knew people would find the taco thing funny".)

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    I guessed correctly that Estinien would be there separate from the other groups, but I thought it would be for something slightly more deliberate than "catch the next ship going anywhere".

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    The credits slideshow usually finishes off with some kind of image specially created for it, and here we get a nice picture of Vrtra and mini Azdaja flying together.


    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    WoL still has Emet's bucket list on the brain.
    Hard not to, with so many reminders. At least they didn't go on to quote the bit about other shards that people keep pointing to and claiming it's some proof of S9's origins.


    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    They seem to be getting more comfortable with adding references to side content if you've completed it.
    That level of reference isn't anything new. They've always had small nods like that where you might get a different version of a text box or two depending on quest progression elsewhere.

    It's things like characters physically turning up according to sidequest progress that is a recent development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post


    That level of reference isn't anything new. They've always had small nods like that where you might get a different version of a text box or two depending on quest progression elsewhere.

    It's things like characters physically turning up according to sidequest progress that is a recent development.
    Ya they have done this for a long time.

    The first time we got a big change in the storyline based on a side story being finished or not was when we first met Estinien and there are three versions of Estinien encounter being If you never done the 1.0/2.0 Dragoon Quest, if you are still progressing through the Dragoon Quest, and if you finish the Dragoon quest.

    The version where we meet him when never done the Dragoon Quest is a neutral reaction and Estinien properly introduce himself.

    The version when we are only progressing through 2.0 Dragoon Job quest has the WoL look hostile when spotting Estinien and he tells WoL they will hold off their conflict for later.

    The version of that moment when the 2.0 Dragoon Quest is finished has WoL be surprised because he/she thought Estinien died during the finale of 2.0 Dragoon Quest and Estinien tells WoL he has not interests in starting up the conflict they last had during 2.0 Dragoon Quest for now due to the situation in Ishgard.


    Looking back on this, Estinien really has come a long way from a side character in a side storyline to Main Character status.


    Another example of this during early days of FF14 was during 3.X era contents when Alisaie started to join the Scion team after she was attacked by the Warriors of Darkness. Her dialogue is very different based on if your character finished (or still working on) the Coil Raid storyline or not from 2.X era.
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