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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Oop, Sanna's reminded me that by the time I'd made my post, I'd slept and evidently forgotten the actual worst part of the patch for me. Which is kind of a good sign, really--if the worst part of a patch is so forgettable that you literally do forget it within the day, it literally just isn't that bad. But it still annoys me.

    C'mon, did we have to have that scene of Emet's little sequel hook speech? What is that even doing for anyone aside from going 'hey, remember The Guy?' We didn't need the explicit reminder, an earlier scene in the patch already gave us the dialog option to bring it up, and in my experience people prefer that level of subtlety in their callbacks. Is this just for a possibly-fictional group of players that's so critically Ancient-brained that they'd switch off unless the story wasn't directly linked to one?

    I'm not even sure it does much for the Emet-likers; they're mostly there for the complicated emotional and character dynamic, and this is as flatly positive as it gets for him.
    It is more for establishing and reminding players why the WoL will go to the expansion region regardless of personal involvement or not in the politics going on there. A very classic Epilogue moment that most stories use to setup and remind the viewers of the story reason why the Main Character is actually going to a certain region since it has been a while for that moment when Emet establish the reason for WoL to go there.

    Players can choose earlier in this MSQ to say they want to avoid the politics going on which would suggest he/she has no interests going to Tural. However, Emet mention of the Golden City is meant to be the real reason why WoL is going regardless of his/her stance with getting involved in the succession part of their journey. Though I find it a bit strange there was no dialogue that allow the WoL to tell everyone he/she is only going to investigate the Golden City and only option close to that is "I am always up for a new Adventure" dialogue options which the characters can interpret as many things.
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    Spunky axe-wielding amazon and helpless lala girl who desperately wants to assist her fellow scions on the frontlines...

    Why do these arcs sound familiar...
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    MSQ thoughts

    At this point in time, Wuk Lamat's story and it's development seems way too obvious and I don't know how to feel about that. It feels too much like Lyse.

    I think what I'd like to perhaps see happen is that WoL manages to do much of the heavy lifting early on, and when it's time for Wuk to take charge, she'll fail miserably because she has just rested comfortably on her laurels while WoL has done all the work essentially. And because of her incompetency, I could see some of the scions who have teamed up with her bailing on her as well, because there are clear signs that she is not fit for this position at all.

    I think Wuk will end up failing to get the throne, partly because even she ends up realizing she doesn't have the necessary qualities to succeed her father. She might even be motivated by WoL to seek adventure and personal development instead.

    But hell, I thought Myths of the Realm wasn't going to be another '' our work is done, now let us die please '' story that has been rehashed in the past two expansions two times already, but they managed to do just that regardless, so perhaps we are going to get a very similar story to Lyse again.

    On another note, not excited for more twins. G'raha staying back is rough though because I really like him but perhaps it's necessary so that people wont keep whining about how he is supposedly forced on them and that he is such a fanboy ugh sigh (when he has done barely anything in Endwalker). I really enjoyed him basically saying to WoL that '' go to Tural for adventure and to meet new people, and if you don't care for the politics, just bail out lmao. '' He is not all goody goody that catboy!

    Thancred's position is going to be interesting. He has a lot of... weird flags popping up the last few patches, in his dialogue and cutscenes. I can't help but wonder if he'll end up being more antagonistic than expected. Will one of the supposed good guys (scion or otherwise) switch to the big bad's team? Will it be Thancred? Who knows.

    I feel like Estinien is going for a simple adventure and find himself getting along with the locals, and after hearing their opinions on what is going on, that might influence him to join the competition on the side of the person who the locals seem to support the most. Or perhaps there is an even bigger underdog than Wuk Lamat who Estinien will support. It might also be that Estinien is completely out of all of it. His position is going to be very curious.
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    That Emet voice clip was the fly floating in my drink, but it was the predictable blatant thing to do and aside from reminding me how much Emet’s narration soured the experience of entering a new zone, it felt like we’re finally done with the pandering until an Ultimate. And it reminded me to be excited and speculate over who Dawntrail’s narrator will be. If it’s not a new character, I think Erenville and Krile are the two most likely candidates and I’d love either. Some possibility for Wuk or the twins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denishia View Post
    That Emet voice clip was the fly floating in my drink, but it was the predictable blatant thing to do and aside from reminding me how much Emet’s narration soured the experience of entering a new zone, it felt like we’re finally done with the pandering until an Ultimate.
    I didn't hate it solely because I'm foolishly hoping that there's some yet-unforeseen personal significance and not just blatant pandering, but you have reminded me how utterly nonsensical it was to have Emet-Selch narrate Endwalker when Venat was right there. The only zone where it made any sense was Garlemald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denishia View Post
    That Emet voice clip was the fly floating in my drink, but it was the predictable blatant thing to do and aside from reminding me how much Emet’s narration soured the experience of entering a new zone, it felt like we’re finally done with the pandering until an Ultimate. And it reminded me to be excited and speculate over who Dawntrail’s narrator will be. If it’s not a new character, I think Erenville and Krile are the two most likely candidates and I’d love either. Some possibility for Wuk or the twins.
    The narration side of the expansion was something I always found interesting because there is always some kind of story importance to them but we usually see it once we reach a certain end.

    The narration in Heavensward was Edmont writing his book about events of Heavensward and thus establishing a history book for future generations after FF14.

    3.X narration during the last half of was Papalymo letter after he died for Lyse.

    Stormblood was basically Lyse telling the story of Stormblood sometime in the distant future after FF14. Most likely making it into a book as well at that point.

    Shadowbringer was G'raha Tia telling the story in the distant future, most likely writing it in a book as well.

    Endwalker is a bit funny one out of the narrations since it is just Emet having some kind of personal fun due to being literally dead, a bit bored, and all he could do was only watch the WoL go through his/her story.
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    I hold that the character whose narration would have made the most sense and had the biggest impact was Meteion. We wouldn’t know who the narrator was until Elpis for mystery, it would make her presence stronger and allow more characterization, especially depending on which version and level of hope/despair, and ties into her initial role as am observation probe.
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    Not my idea, it was someone on twitter, but I agree that Minfilia could've made a good narrator for EW, as the character who effectively set us on this path it would've been fitting for her to also be there at the end in some capacity, especially since we didn't get to spend much time with her (or her new VA) compared to so many of the other characters from back then...
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Not my idea, it was someone on twitter, but I agree that Minfilia could've made a good narrator for EW, as the character who effectively set us on this path it would've been fitting for her to also be there at the end in some capacity, especially since we didn't get to spend much time with her (or her new VA) compared to so many of the other characters from back then...
    Now I'm upset that we never had Minfilia narrating anything because she would have been perfect for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    Not my idea, it was someone on twitter, but I agree that Minfilia could've made a good narrator for EW, as the character who effectively set us on this path it would've been fitting for her to also be there at the end in some capacity, especially since we didn't get to spend much time with her (or her new VA) compared to so many of the other characters from back then...
    Would have made a ton more sense that Emett. No amount of tragic backstory is going to make up for having wiped out entire planets or the untold amount of suffering caused in the first and thirteenth AND source during the calamities. Even Venat made more sense but nah, someone on the writing team has an obsession with this particular villain so we'll just have him ring out the old world.
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