Thread: Patch 6.55 - Growing Light Part II - Story Discussion

Originally Posted by Denishia

Wuk Lamat has a refreshing energy. Some of her vibes feel like Yuffie, and while she's an energetic ax-wielding lady jibbing on her more serious childhood friend, she doesn't feel like a direct Moenbryda copy. Or Lyse. Though she does help to fill the personality gap left by them.

Probably a coincidence, but Wuk Lamat also talks like Yuffie, at least in Japanese. Most of her dialogue is "rough tomboyish" in word choice, but she also uses "atashi" pronouns, which is supposed to be more "feminine"/"girly". Which is how Yuffie speaks in FFVII (at least the original).

Originally Posted by BabaM

Really not digging the whole reason for going to Tural. We barely know anything about Wuk Lamat, we don't know who the other 3 claimants are, we don't know their policies aside from that one is a warmonger, we don't know Wuk Lamat's policies at all, and we're asked to just fight for a stranger and play kingmaker and give her the throne...why? Is everyone just blinded by furry thirst that no one is questioning the fact that we're going to fighting to put Wuk Lamat, a complete stranger, on the throne of a foreign country we know nothing about? The whole thing feels strange and forced and G'raha telling me I can just slip away if I'm not interested in supporting her at the end doesn't fill me with confidence because FFXIV is not a game where that level of story choice is a thing. We're basically agreeing to help the first person who asked, not the best person for the job. And the fact that politics are involved makes the whole adventure feel a bit grimey to me.

I'm pretty sure the dialogue is explicit in saying we're going to Tural to see for ourselves what the situation is like. I think that is a very fair and reasonable decision to make.

Also playing as a mid-height FemRoe, Wuk Lamat comes across as, well, short. Not excessively so, but very much a teenage girl who hasn't reached her adult height. The character is probably supposed to be no younger than nineteen, but she has the 'quasi-tomboy princess on a mission underplaying her royalty' that Yuffie did. But I would not be shocked if she introduces herself as the "White Orchid of Tuliyollal" at some point.

The FF X-2 vibes have not dissipated in the slightest, and I will stop myself from relabeling Koana's faction either the Youth League or Catboy-Gippal with great pains.

And I think that we're entering Tural with more hesitancy and willingness to question our proposed actions and alliance than we did helping the Cirina and the Mol win the Nadaam, with Erenville roughly filling in for Gotetsu and Hien in this parallel.

Originally Posted by Denishia

Also playing as a mid-height FemRoe, Wuk Lamat comes across as, well, short. Not excessively so, but very much a teenage girl who hasn't reached her adult height. The character is probably supposed to be no younger than nineteen, but she has the 'quasi-tomboy princess on a mission underplaying her royalty' that Yuffie did. But I would not be shocked if she introduces herself as the "White Orchid of Tuliyollal" at some point.

The FF X-2 vibes have not dissipated in the slightest, and I will stop myself from relabeling Koana's faction either the Youth League or Catboy-Gippal with great pains.

And I think that we're entering Tural with more hesitancy and willingness to question our proposed actions and alliance than we did helping the Cirina and the Mol win the Nadaam, with Erenville roughly filling in for Gotetsu and Hien in this parallel.

You should absolutely embrace that labeling convention. Though that would immediately distance me from a new Yevon faction by default.

Not going to bother adding it to my other post, but I did find it a bit odd that the last Tataru quest makes it feel as though you should be doing it post MSQ as she gets all LoL if you think I won't track your ass down just cause you went to some place new to give out new samples of my wares at the end of it. N I had done it before doing the MSQ and went wait how do you know I'll be going somewhere new hmmm? I am also a little bummed that Estinien doesn't even mention Meracydia as a possible place to go even if we all know that he wouldn't have chosen that as his destination due to the trailer. It will be interesting to see how he and the other two who currently aren't coming end up in Tural. I am glad that he has an adventuring bug. After all he went from sheppard to being a symbol of Ishgard for almost most of his life time and now he is just following his heart. Hopefully this time he will check in with his found family more often than he did between 3.3 and 4.5. I am a bit disappointed in Emet-Selch's journal entry. Sure he gets mentioned in other entries but in his own entry he barely gets anything.

Oop, Sanna's reminded me that by the time I'd made my post, I'd slept and evidently forgotten the actual worst part of the patch for me. Which is kind of a good sign, really--if the worst part of a patch is so forgettable that you literally do forget it within the day, it literally just isn't that bad. But it still annoys me.

C'mon, did we have to have that scene of Emet's little sequel hook speech? What is that even doing for anyone aside from going 'hey, remember The Guy?' We didn't need the explicit reminder, an earlier scene in the patch already gave us the dialog option to bring it up, and in my experience people prefer that level of subtlety in their callbacks. Is this just for a possibly-fictional group of players that's so critically Ancient-brained that they'd switch off unless the story wasn't directly linked to one?

I'm not even sure it does much for the Emet-likers; they're mostly there for the complicated emotional and character dynamic, and this is as flatly positive as it gets for him.

Originally Posted by Cleretic

Oop, Sanna's reminded me that by the time I'd made my post, I'd slept and evidently forgotten the actual worst part of the patch for me. Which is kind of a good sign, really--if the worst part of a patch is so forgettable that you literally do forget it within the day, it literally just isn't that bad. But it still annoys me.

C'mon, did we have to have that scene of Emet's little sequel hook speech? What is that even doing for anyone aside from going 'hey, remember The Guy?' We didn't need the explicit reminder, an earlier scene in the patch already gave us the dialog option to bring it up, and in my experience people prefer that level of subtlety in their callbacks. Is this just for a possibly-fictional group of players that's so critically Ancient-brained that they'd switch off unless the story wasn't directly linked to one?

I'm not even sure it does much for the Emet-likers; they're mostly there for the complicated emotional and character dynamic, and this is as flatly positive as it gets for him.

I even as an Emet enjoyer went really we needed to be reminded of the laundry list? It is a bit strange that we had the under the sea treasures reminder again. Unless we're all wrong in thinking that Alzadaal's Legacy was said under sea treasures.

Originally Posted by SannaR

I even as an Emet enjoyer went really we needed to be reminded of the laundry list? It is a bit strange that we had the under the sea treasures reminder again. Unless we're all wrong in thinking that Alzadaal's Legacy was said under sea treasures.

I honestly won't be surprised if the under the Sea part ends up as a Expansion involving a underwater Nation that some how created a underwater dome large enough to be a country.

A side content is a obvious guess but if the Bucket List ends up being what each Expansion is going to focus on individually then it will be a bit of a interesting concept how the development team handles this