Patch 6.55 - Growing Light Part II - Story Discussion

[Eisi]

Yoyoyoyoyo!

Feel free to discuss whatever cute new story developments have occured in this new patch.

[Yuella]

MSQ: So it looks like

G'raha is not coming? At least not initially. Maybe he'll come later.

I thought Tuliyollal was the golden city. I guess Solution 9 is the golden city. The one claimant who's a jerk probably plans to use Solution 9 technology to invade Eorzea.

Fun fact: 1498 was when Columbus reached mainland Americas. Can't be a coincidence

I'd say Endwalker ends in a high note. The tone in the 6.55 MSQ is so much lighter and casual. Manderville, Tataru and Allied Tribal Quests have great finale too.

[NekoMataMata]

MSQ: So it looks like

G'raha is not coming? At least not initially. Maybe he'll come later.

I thought Tuliyollal was the golden city. I guess Solution 9 is the golden city. The one claimant who's a jerk probably plans to use Solution 9 technology to invade Eorzea.

Fun fact: 1498 was when Columbus reached mainland Americas. Can't be a coincidence

I'd say Endwalker ends in a high note. The tone in the 6.55 MSQ is so much lighter and casual. Manderville, Tataru and Allied Tribal Quests have great finale too.

We've seen the trailer. There's no way he's staying behind. Taco cat must consume.

I do think the MSQ was rather predictable though. It's going to be Team Krile and Team Thancred. I assume that the actual division won't really begin until we get over there and everyone meets up. Even though we have both twins with us right now, it's likely that they might split up between the teams. The way Thancred discussed it gave it the same vibes as a sporting competition. He's not discouraged knowing that we're competition, and seems to be excited by it.

Also, I know someone's going to point out that it's technically our team, considering Wuk Lamat clearly came to request our assistance, but due to Krile's motivations, her job change, and you know the fact that they literally told us she was going to play a bigger part in DT, it might as well be hers. We might not even stick around with her the entire time.

Given the context of DT the teams aren't going to last long anyways. It'll be a split of 9-12 quests for each team potentially before we join forces and agree to back one of the four contenders for the throne of Tural in order to prevent the one warmongering successor from taking power.

Manderville was alright, Tataru was interesting and Allied BT was cute.

Also just a minor detail from the MSQ I noticed though:

They seem to be getting more comfortable with adding references to side content if you've completed it. I assume players that haven't done the EW AR series don't get the second part of this remark.

I know it seems insignificant but it's yet another step in the right direction like with them allowing Gaia to exist in the MSQ if you finished the Eden raids. This will allow them to relax and not worry regarding the importance of the lore they create for side stories.

[Sacae]

There is also a reference to the Omega EW quest in the Island finale.

[Aeromancer]

What the hell is up with this dialogue? I genuinely think some of these lines are AI-generated.

"Whatever this creature is, it had better be able to put up a proper fight, or it'll end before we have the chance to get acquainted." Are we serious with this shit?

[EdwinLi]

Origin of Pictomancer

They actually explain how Pictomancer came to be and that is because a version of Relm existed in FF14 world and she founded the arts of Pictomancer in Sharlayan long ago.

I wonder if they may end up doing this more later with future new jobs having them being founded or related to a character from other FF games where the new jobs are based on.

Other reason we are going to Tural......

Preventing another war and a massive invasion on Eorzea is a decent reason to go to the new regions beyond searching for the Golden City. Eorzea is still recovering from the war after countless years in it and now one of the four successors to the throne in Tural wants to take advantage of this by invading Eorzea if he becomes the new King. Ya they are not technological advanced as the Garlean Empire but the countries are still recovering and another war right when the last one just ended is never a good thing.

Tural also avoided getting involved in the war so this prince see this as a advantage since they did not suffer any supply loss to their Nation's army.

What the hell is up with this dialogue? I genuinely think some of these lines are AI-generated.

"Whatever this creature is, it had better be able to put up a proper fight, or it'll end before we have the chance to get acquainted." Are we serious with this shit?

they explained this already that their version of the language is not as fluent. As a result it comes out alot like broken English (or whatever language the voice dialogue is in) when people from Tural speaks using this new language their country only recently started making common tongue since they needed to start communicating with countries outside of Tural.


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Thoughts on growing stories about the City of Gold...

At this point in the story, I am starting to think the City of Gold is going for the more Metaphorical meaning when it means "Gold". I won't be surprised this new Civilization we will find in Dawntrail is the City of Gold and the "Gold" is actually the knowledge this civilization contains.

[EdwinLi]

New Primal.....

I am a bit surprised they decided to bring Asura into FF14 now. I was partly expecting her to be involved in 6.0 years back. She seem like a Summon that would have been a Primal during the time of 6.0 MSQ considering the situation the world was in.

Though the lore about how Asura is not popular enough God by the majority explains a lot why she is rarely mentioned and thought about to end up as a Primal until now.

[Iscah]

Short but sweet. I'm not as keen on Wuk Lamat as some people, and sympathising with Erenville.

MSQ and some cross-speculating with Fan Fest:

The expanded world map that G'raha bought for the annex doesn't seem to show Solution Nine, adding to the likelihood that it's a currently unknown location we'll discover along the way. Still no reason to go assuming it or the lightning aspect of the area are anything unnatural until we're given more concrete reason to believe so.

Maybe the ancient script in S9 isn't anything remarkable at all, just what Tural adopted as their common script.

Also the glow on the new Manderville weapons reminds me of S9's colour scheme.

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We now have a better picture of what we're going into with the contest, and can guess that the Miqo'te from the poster is Wuk Lamar's brother Koana, and his more western vibe might come from his time spent in Sharlayan.

We know to expect four royal characters overall and that the "villain" is male; if the girl at the top of the poster is indeed the fourth claimant (as some others have speculated above) then that leaves Koana and the Mamool Ja as the two possibilities for the villain, and it seems a bit cliche for the ugly monster one to be the bad guy, so that would accuse Koana by deduction, but Wuk Lamat seems to speak far more fondly of him than would make sense for that scenario.

That said, the girl has the vibe of being something more special and ethereal than just another claimant to the throne, so I would suspect that the would-be warlord claimant might not be on the poster at all.

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I assume Koana is the one who has petitioned Thancred and Urianger, and has particular interest in Archons because he has been in Sharlayan for a while.

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The business with Krile's letter is quite odd, with it being in the wrong script, but they still just say "oh, it must have been dictated to someone else" and never consider further? Why would a scribe be writing in the wrong language, unless it's deliberately communicating with a foreigner in the foreigner's language, in which case why not just say that from the start? "It's in Eorzean so it must have been written by a scribe, but the signature is definitely my father's" makes far more sense than starting off by saying it's not written by him.

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We seriously caught a giant bird unknown to science and brought it into a hub of researchers to get turned into lunch? Okay...

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G'raha's offer to stay behind and look after the Students is very generous of him, but doesn't line up with him being in the trailer. It seems an odd thing to do and then so immeduately undermine, so I'll be interested in the justification for it (even if it's "lol he's not coming, we just knew people would find the taco thing funny".)

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I guessed correctly that Estinien would be there separate from the other groups, but I thought it would be for something slightly more deliberate than "catch the next ship going anywhere".

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The credits slideshow usually finishes off with some kind of image specially created for it, and here we get a nice picture of Vrtra and mini Azdaja flying together.

WoL still has Emet's bucket list on the brain.

Hard not to, with so many reminders. At least they didn't go on to quote the bit about other shards that people keep pointing to and claiming it's some proof of S9's origins.

They seem to be getting more comfortable with adding references to side content if you've completed it.

That level of reference isn't anything new. They've always had small nods like that where you might get a different version of a text box or two depending on quest progression elsewhere.

It's things like characters physically turning up according to sidequest progress that is a recent development.

[EdwinLi]

That level of reference isn't anything new. They've always had small nods like that where you might get a different version of a text box or two depending on quest progression elsewhere.

It's things like characters physically turning up according to sidequest progress that is a recent development.

Ya they have done this for a long time.

The first time we got a big change in the storyline based on a side story being finished or not was when we first met Estinien and there are three versions of Estinien encounter being If you never done the 1.0/2.0 Dragoon Quest, if you are still progressing through the Dragoon Quest, and if you finish the Dragoon quest.

The version where we meet him when never done the Dragoon Quest is a neutral reaction and Estinien properly introduce himself.

The version when we are only progressing through 2.0 Dragoon Job quest has the WoL look hostile when spotting Estinien and he tells WoL they will hold off their conflict for later.

The version of that moment when the 2.0 Dragoon Quest is finished has WoL be surprised because he/she thought Estinien died during the finale of 2.0 Dragoon Quest and Estinien tells WoL he has not interests in starting up the conflict they last had during 2.0 Dragoon Quest for now due to the situation in Ishgard.


Looking back on this, Estinien really has come a long way from a side character in a side storyline to Main Character status.


Another example of this during early days of FF14 was during 3.X era contents when Alisaie started to join the Scion team after she was attacked by the Warriors of Darkness. Her dialogue is very different based on if your character finished (or still working on) the Coil Raid storyline or not from 2.X era.

[MikkoAkure]

Maybe the ancient script in S9 isn\\'t anything remarkable at all, just what Tural adopted as their common script.

There is a section from one of the trailers where we can see a bar in Xak Tural with modern Eorzean script

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