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    Marick Starsaver
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    Just unlock the Raid Tier already!

    I know that this has been a long-standing practice, but that doesn't mean it is a good one.

    The (savage) raid tiers last about 8 months, starting in an even patch, with the half-way point being an odd patch. Why are we still waiting till the 6th or 7th month to unlock a tier?!

    Especially, now we have Ultimates it seems to make less and less sense. Do they not consider that we may want to gear alt jobs? Or maybe we want to engage with the most current raid content (new Ultimate)? Or maybe we want to change jobs/roles for said Ultimate? Or, for those of us with tight schedules, maybe want to engage/invest in other content?

    Just doing the math it takes 8 weeks (2 months) to fully gear a static once you clear the tier (possibly a little less so for individuals in PF). That means, if you are in a static, you have to clear the tier in 2 months to participate in the next Ultimate on release (X.1 & X.3 patches). Which seems to be pretty unrealistic for most statics. The more likely scenario is you're clearing the tier in 4-6 months and being time-gated from finishing the tier until the literal last month or so (counting re-clears).

    Just unlock the tier on the next major patch drop (X.1, X.3, X.5)
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Quote Originally Posted by maric193 View Post
    I know that this has been a long-standing practice, but that doesn't mean it is a good one.
    Sums up most of the normalized bad practices this game has going for it. A lot of things people would've wanted to just see now, so they could have things to do between now and summer, are simply "not in the schedule" until 2~4 months from now. Maybe more. And people ask "well why don't they change it?" and they get hit with "well that's just how it's always been."
    It would be amazing if they unlocked all this weekly stuff, doubled the tome weekly cap, gave us a new unreal (or just unlocked all the old ones), added a moogle tomestone event, etc. but tHaTs nOt iN tHe sChEdULe so people can just do 6.55 and then log off until Dawntrail comes I guess. I wonder who is forcing the lead developer to stick to a schedule that everyone despises? Is someone threatening Yoshi P? Is he okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Jfc why did I even post on a bait thread, this place sucks. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Likely saving it for some random patch they can do next month to try and make it looks like we're not in a content drought.
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    I shan't hand the keys and you shall wait until it's not relevant enough to farm it
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Im guessing they are saving it for the same time that they double the weekly limit from 450 tomes to 900.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Player DrForester's Avatar
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    Miyara Dantes
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    Has savage ever been unlocked on the X.X5 patch before? I thought it was always the X.X7 or X.X8 patch, when they unlock. Usually the same time they make the tome weapon upgrade available via 24-man raid coins.
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    Has savage ever been unlocked on the X.X5 patch before? I thought it was always the X.X7 or X.X8 patch, when they unlock. Usually the same time they make the tome weapon upgrade available via 24-man raid coins.
    In Heavensward and Stormblood, Savage unlocked when the 2nd installment of the final patch MSQ released, in 3.56 and 4.56 respectively.

    When you look at the raw number of extra weeks this tier has had without unlocking, it's even worse. By this time in every previous expansion, Savage would have already unlocked.
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    Has savage ever been unlocked on the X.X5 patch before? I thought it was always the X.X7 or X.X8 patch, when they unlock. Usually the same time they make the tome weapon upgrade available via 24-man raid coins.
    The main issue is that the patches being longer they didn’t make any adjustments when to when they should be unlocked. It’s kind of even more egregious now with the final step of the relic being out now too and they still haven’t given the token for the tome weapon so that you can unlock the new skin from aloalo savage.
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    Memeri Meri
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    Omega
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I really hope this is something they look at more fully in Dawntrail alongside changes to Variant dungeon loot. Something along the lines of this would be my ideal, I think:

    Savage content release patch - situation remains as-is, with one quality of life change: once you've cleared a fight they don't relock the following week. So if your group wants to skip to floor 3 (still abandoning loot for that week from floors 1 and 2) you can do so without someone having to sort a taxi in advance.

    .x5 patch - roughly 12 weeks / 3 months post tier launch. Hardcore statics have already cleared and farmed the tier on their mains, so I think you could open up a bit at this point. Loot remains locked (i.e. one drop per floor per week), but you can now do the floors in any order. A more casual static like mine often skips floors when done with loot for mains. This change would mean I could do those skipped floors in PF towards the end of the week and help other groups on earlier fights, without interfering with their loot drops or having to work around my raid group's schedule. At the same time a new Variant dungeon should be dropping here, with additional gearing options. Maybe once per week loot equivalent to the first three floors, or something. So boss 1 drops a floor 1 chest, boss 2 drops a floor 2 chest, and boss 3 drops a floor 3 chest. Savage Variant could drop floor 4 loot as well, or something, plus the glowy tome weapon.

    Next main patch - The tier has been out for 6 months at this point, so remove weekly loot restriction and unlock the tier. It's been long enough.

    Next .x5 patch - This is 9 months or so post-launch of the tier - add echo.
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    Mitsuki Akiyumi
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    Malboro
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    I found this amusing when I read the patch notes and noticed it wasn't unlocked. Since the relic is out and having a 665 item level there's no reason to complete P12 for the weapon if you haven't already. Seems like doing the alliance raids/ grinding tomes will be a thing until they decide to unlock it..maybe 3 months later.
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