Guess I finally give up Bard in PvP

[DioK]

An effective 3000 potency loss on what little burst the class has. Even if you add the 2000 potency buff to Burst Arrow, one is still looking at an overall 1000 potency loss to a class that was already under-performing. On top of that, nerfing the recast time of Silent Nocturne, making the skill even harder to make be of use. Nerfing the duration of Warden's Paean, the one defensive capability, outside of guard, that Bard has.

They really want to reduce the class to nothing but a very boring totem that just sits in the back doing minor "poke" damage, while providing a meager buff to the team.

I've been able to adapt new strategies and techniques to compensate for a very long time, but this is getting exhausting. At this point, feels like playing Bard in PvP is for gigachad mode players only, cause only people playing at that level can get anything out of the class.

Addendum: Oh, and I forgot to mention the already 8000 potency opportunity loss thanks to the range nerf on Silent Nocturne.

Oh, also, Red Mage still retains its 25 yalm, 8000 potency line AoE silence, WITH A 20 SEC COOLDOWN! But Bard had to be nerfed cause reasons.

[Mawlzy]

I felt overall the buffs/nerfs were sensible, but I have no idea why Bard got smacked like this.

[Commander_Justitia]

At least they buffed Blackmage, that was really important and sensible.

[Shekky]

Yeah...I'm just going to give up bard and go with DRG or SAM since those seem to be the dev's fav.

[Eastwall]

I heard bard and whm was in almost every team comp in jp fanfest tournament. Apparently It mean they are too strong, Thus the nerf

[Valence]

I heard bard and whm was in almost every team comp in jp fanfest tournament. Apparently It mean they are too strong, Thus the nerf

That is not the case in all the datacenters, but I guess we should nerf bard instead of a universally consistent pick like DRG that is in every team on every datacenter around the world.

[VoidsentStatus]

That is not the case in all the datacenters, but I guess we should nerf bard instead of a universally consistent pick like DRG that is in every team on every datacenter around the world.

EU is the lowest quality pvp out of the 3 main data regions. You are the lowest sample size of matches and comps since you allow your ranked pvp to die for half the season every season damn near. Your data region doesn't even treat pvp seriously, you're not going to be included in balance change discussions.

[Valence]

EU is the lowest quality pvp out of the 3 main data regions. You are the lowest sample size of matches and comps since you allow your ranked pvp to die for half the season every season damn near. Your data region doesn't even treat pvp seriously, you're not going to be included in balance change discussions.

So what? We should dump regions that have different metas or environments because of what? Their activity?

I haven't played on other DCs to check how it is, and frankly, while I find it interesting to learn more about it, I don't see how saying that "you don't matter and should suck it up even if balance changes literally harm your region even more" helps anything..

( i'd actually be interested to have takes from actual EU players that have dabbled in all and see if they hold the same view on it )

Edit: also, you completely missed the point I was making.

[VoidsentStatus]

So what? We should dump regions that have different metas or environments because of what? Their activity?

I haven't played on other DCs to check how it is, and frankly, while I find it interesting to learn more about it, I don't see how saying that "you don't matter and should suck it up even if balance changes literally harm your region even more" helps anything..

( i'd actually be interested to have takes from actual EU players that have dabbled in all and see if they hold the same view on it )

Edit: also, you completely missed the point I was making.

Yes. That is what the developers already stated they do. They looked at the statistics for win rates across several data centers to decide what is buffed and nerfed, and if you're looking at win rates, you're probably looking at sample sizes and skill with said sample size as added elements. JP is the only data region with increased matchmaking difficulty because they're the only data region active enough to support SE making more competitive matches so they're going to have the highest influence on balance changes by a good margin, then NA after, then EU, then OCE.

[KiraShalen]

EU is the lowest quality pvp out of the 3 main data regions. You are the lowest sample size of matches and comps since you allow your ranked pvp to die for half the season every season damn near. Your data region doesn't even treat pvp seriously, you're not going to be included in balance change discussions.

Hopefully you don't believe NA is any more relevant nor included in balance changes discussions lmao