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  1. #21
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    Voidsent Veneer
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    To be honest JP probably have the right mindset and play for the mode instead of the rewards, but that's another topic.



    You're making a boatload of assumptions to serve your narrative, but that could be possible, don't get me wrong.

    Still completely beyond the point I made but whatever.
    actually nevermind. Forgot that the devs added pvp explanations for changes in the job guide now. at the bottom for patch 6.55 changes https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/pvp/#pvpaction

    "For this round of adjustments, we've focused primarily on tuning jobs that see low usage rates in ranked matches. We've also chosen to address the exceedingly powerful synergy between white mage and bard, which stems from both jobs having effective strategies for impeding enemies and countering status afflictions. To this end, we've made adjustments to balance white mage and bard performance, and ensure a wider variety of job synergies are effective. "

    "Monk maintains its impressive win rate in higher tier ranked matches. One factor accounting for this is monk's considerable damage mitigation. To tone this down, we've adjusted the effect duration of Earth Resonance."

    "We've adjusted Empyreal Arrow and Silent Nocturne to reduce each ability's respective impact on burst damage output, as well as reduced the effect duration of the Warden's Paean. To avoid simply weakening the job, we've also increased the potency of Blast Arrow and reduced the recast time of The Warden's Paean. Our intention is to highlight the bard's distinctive combination of powerful weaponskills and support capabilities."

    "Not only can Miracle of Nature underpin remarkable burst damage output with proper coordination, but white mage has seen consistently high usage and win rates in ranked matches. To that end, we've reduced the potency of Miracle of Nature by adjusting its recast time."

    So yes, they are definitely looking at ranked matches and statistics. And they are targeting the whm bard spam crystal lobbies on JP.
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    Last edited by VoidsentStatus; 01-18-2024 at 07:27 AM.

  2. #22
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    Tako Yaki
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus View Post
    EU is the lowest quality pvp out of the 3 main data regions. You are the lowest sample size of matches and comps since you allow your ranked pvp to die for half the season every season damn near. Your data region doesn't even treat pvp seriously, you're not going to be included in balance change discussions.
    > Lowest quality pvp out of the 3 main data regions
    > "your data region doesn't even treat pvp seriously"

    Lets take a look at Dynamis top 100



    > "You are the lowest sample size of matches and comps"
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by KongouPrime View Post
    > Lowest quality pvp out of the 3 main data regions
    > "your data region doesn't even treat pvp seriously"

    Lets take a look at Dynamis top 100



    > "You are the lowest sample size of matches and comps"
    You should've checked the other bard thread to realize I'm a JP main for PvP since Season 4. Unlike EU people, I didn't stay on a dead data center while forming opinions :3


    "S1 - Crystal - Aether
    S2 - Crystal - Primal
    S3 - Crystal - Crystal
    S4 - Top 100 - Crystal, Top 30 - Dynamis, Crystal - Mana
    S5 - Crystal - Mana
    S8 - Crystal - Mana, Crystal - Elemental (WAR), Crystal - Gaia (DRG), Crystal - Meteor (RPR)
    S9 - 1200 Credits - Mana, 1300 Credits - Elemental (WAR), 1100 Credits - Gaia (DRG), 900 Credits - Meteor (RPR), Top 100 - Primal, Diamond 2 - Chaos"

    Sidenote, if you're treating a data center that's only existed for 1 year compared to data centers that are 4-10 years old and missed 33% of the CC PvP Seasons because it wasn't made yet as a "main" data center for its region, you're reaching.
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    Last edited by VoidsentStatus; 01-19-2024 at 12:06 AM.

  4. 01-19-2024 10:06 PM
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    You know what, you're right

  5. #24
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    White Flow
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 90
    :3 :3 :> D: §:
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    Jumpshot Tryhard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    That is not the case in all the datacenters, but I guess we should nerf bard instead of a universally consistent pick like DRG that is in every team on every datacenter around the world.
    Lol, l am just trying to say why they might did it, not if this is the right move. I only play casual So l could careless. I don't mind a fast 2 minutes loss to get that sweet tomestone
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  7. #26
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    I'm not convinced as strongly about this than I initially thought. I lack too much data on other regions to make myself an opinion on bard. It's just not a dominating job in the west is all, which means that nerfing it may be the best move elsewhere, but not where I play.
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