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    It's time: Hrothgar posture setting

    Now that we're getting Female Hrothgar and hopefully soon after, the end of our struggle with headgears/hairstyles, it would be wonderful to get an option to have a posture setting for male Hrothgar (apparently Female Hrothgar don't suffer this) to have a straight back or the default hunchback.

    Hrothgar was based on Ronso from FFX and *shock* most Ronso have excellent posture and looks A+.
    I do understand that this was an artistic decision (that I believe most Hrothgar players would agree with me) did not mesh well with FFXIV systems as stated bellow:

    - Armor tends to get warped and coats stretched, especially at waistline

    - Most emotes have the player stand with a straight back, meaning that during cutscenes it looks terrible on Hrothgar as it goes:

    hunchback> straight back emote> hunchback

    It's really a shame, because Hrothgar's emotes are really well done

    - it doesn't make the race feel anymore feral, it feels that they went for a WoW low rank Orc (And even there they have a posture setting)

    - Floating Weapons are MUCH worse on a Hrothgar character.

    So, yeah, it adds very little and introduce a lot of issues and again, my perception is that a lot of Hrothgar players take issue with it.

    Anyway, I'm proposing a setting that let players choose and not completely remove it from the game.

    Thanks all!
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    Last edited by Balmung_Griffin; 01-16-2024 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Fixing text

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    I appreciated that they tried to lean into a more beastly race by going with the hunch however because of all the reasons OP listed the end result just isn't great. I remember during their reveal trailer thinking that their sprint animation would have been even cooler if they actually ran on all fours or something to really sell that beastman vibe. SE (like with a lot of things) seems to have taken a middle ground between beastly-while-still-conventionally-attractive that's kind of awkward (even moreso with the female Hrothgar), and I think it would be beneficial if they just committed to one thing or another but I digress. That being said, an option to give them better posture would be fantastic. I love my Hrothgar and I usually love beastman posture, but here it makes their torsos far too barrellike.
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    I like their posture. What I dont like is the furries. I just want to be a cool lion man. But they have to find a way to ruin that for me, so I'm a boring human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    What I dont like is the furries. I just want to be a cool lion man. But they have to find a way to ruin that for me, so I'm a boring human.
    How are furries ruining being a lion man for you? Genuinely curious, as at face value it sounds similar to wanting to be a painter but artists are somehow ruining that for you.
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    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    How are furries ruining being a lion man for you? Genuinely curious, as at face value it sounds similar to wanting to be a painter but artists are somehow ruining that for you.
    It's not that. When you play as a Hrothgar you're automatically labeled a furry or furry adjacent whatever. When they first came out, I made one because they look cool. Well, shortly after I did, I started getting messages of the nsfw variety. So I just blocked the people and moved on with my life, but it kept happening. Eventually, I changed back because of it. I still think they look cool despite all of it, but it's not something I want to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    It's not that. When you play as a Hrothgar you're automatically labeled a furry or furry adjacent whatever. When they first came out, I made one because they look cool. Well, shortly after I did, I started getting messages of the nsfw variety. So I just blocked the people and moved on with my life, but it kept happening. Eventually, I changed back because of it. I still think they look cool despite all of it, but it's not something I want to deal with.
    That happens with almost every race, especially Miqo'te, Viera and Roes. Only reason you don't get that much as a Hyur is because Hyur look like uncanny stiff dolls and most people aren't attracted to them the same way. And Elezen have always been mocked for their weird anatomy.
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    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    That happens with almost every race, especially Miqo'te, Viera and Roes. Only reason you don't get that much as a Hyur is because Hyur look like uncanny stiff dolls and most people aren't attracted to them the same way. And Elezen have always been mocked for their weird anatomy.
    I have played every race in this game in some capacity, and I have never gotten what I got with Hrothgar. Sure when I was a Miqo'te I tended to get random people coming up to me or when I was a Roe people would emote at me etc, but never in my like 20+ years of playing mmos have I ever had as much nsfw stuff whispered to me in such a short period of time because of my race in game as a Hrothgar. Not even close.

    Also it happens to almost every race isn't a good enough reason. It's messed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    When they first came out, I made one because they look cool. Well, shortly after I did, I started getting messages of the nsfw variety. So I just blocked the people and moved on with my life, but it kept happening. Eventually, I changed back because of it. I still think they look cool despite all of it, but it's not something I want to deal with.
    Ugh, that sounds awful; I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Maybe in the next expac when they introduce the ability to blacklist words you'll be able to safely be a lion man without any of the street harassment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    How are furries ruining being a lion man for you? Genuinely curious, as at face value it sounds similar to wanting to be a painter but artists are somehow ruining that for you.
    Try playing as a hrothgar. You would not believe some of the unsolicited /tells I've received.
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    If only SE could also fix my posture irl as well.
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