I wish FFXIV had in-game boss adventurer guides for old content.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

Or at least release a compendium book for it. WoW does a similar thing, even for new raids, back when I played. Like it'll tell you what mechanics will one shot you, or the roles of each class is in the raid, like it'll tell you what to do as a DPS, what to do as a Tank, explain the phases of each boss, etc. However, I understand YP has a strict philosophy on clearing new things blind, so this feature would be better for old content, nothing from any current expansion.

Especially since I wanna do old raids, and the Ultimates, especially since I want to start doing Ultimates for Dawntrail. There are some online guides, such as on Youtube, but they are pretty boring to watch depending on the commentator or poor quality. Like I wanna at least do TWR before Dawntrail. Would anybody else appreciate this feature.

Disclaimer: This isn't meant to be a debate, don't really care if you disagree. And I don't have the energy to defend a quality-of-life feature that I'd appreciate. This post is to see how many people would want the feature, not how many people don't want it or input from those loud "this isn't WoW" people. It's a nice day outside where I'm from, keep it wholesome.

[Ath192]

Or at least release a compendium book for it. WoW does a similar thing, even for new raids, back when I played. Like it'll tell you what mechanics will one shot you, or the roles of each class is in the raid, like it'll tell you what to do as a DPS, what to do as a Tank, explain the phases of each boss, etc. However, I understand YP has a strict philosophy on clearing new things blind, so this feature would be better for old content, nothing from any current expansion.

Especially since I wanna do old raids, and the Ultimates, especially since I want to start doing Ultimates for Dawntrail. There are some online guides, such as on Youtube, but they are pretty boring to watch depending on the commentator or poor quality. Like I wanna at least do TWR before Dawntrail. Would anybody else appreciate this feature.

Disclaimer: This isn't meant to be a debate, don't really care if you disagree. And I don't have the energy to defend a quality-of-life feature that I'd appreciate. This post is to see how many people would want the feature, not how many people don't want it or input from those loud "this isn't WoW" people. It's a nice day outside where I'm from, keep it wholesome.

So you want a post where people aren’t allowed to disagree or point out excellent community sources? Well, that’s not how forums work. If you dont even care to defend your own arguments then what’s the point of bringing them up?

It’s not the worst idea but I’d rather they spend their dev resources in new content as there are plenty of excellent guides out there for old stuff. And I wouldn’t to miss out on a new UI element or maybe an adventurer plate rework just to get info that’s widely available already.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

If you dont even care to defend your own arguments then what’s the point of bringing them up?

"This post is to see how many people would want the feature." Also, it's not an argument, saying "I wish I had this, anybody else wants it too?" Isn't an argument, nor is it an opinion. An opinion would be, "this game should have," not "I wish this game had". But I get it, when something is in a forum space, we have people who always want to be "heard".

[Ath192]

"This post is to see how many people would want the feature." Also, it's not an argument, saying "I wish I had this, anybody else wants it too?" Isn't an argument.

Thing is, to get an accurate picture of how much a playerbase wants a feature devs need to look at who does and doesn’t. If all they see is a post with unanimous support like you are suggesting they’ll think everyone wants that, and take resources from elsewhere to develop it. And that’s why I pointed out my problem with it. Because it’s not worth it to me unless they hire new people to work on this and other things won’t be affected.

The dev cycle is slow enough as it is right now.

[LioJen]

I think the community has made enough resources to cover this better than SE ever could.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

I think the community has made enough resources to cover this better than SE ever could.

With how I learn, I often take the bites and pieces while I'm in an instance, then after several attempts to memorize those bites and pieces while doing the content, I gain the muscle memory, impulse memory or whatever, to complete that content. Like when I was solo'ng HoH, between floors I will use the Maygii guide for those mobs and boss, then I will clear that floor, and check the one for the next floor. Or, whenever I have breathing time to overview it for maybe 2 minutes or so. That's particularly how I learn. But for the guides I've found, well on Youtube, I can't stop what I'm doing to watch long dialogue on a boss, vs simply reading it in a document. Buuuut, if you have links to "documents" on like the Ultimate raids, I would really appreciate it. I learn best reading from a google doc, or a powerpoint for learning end game content. Plus I can put notes and stuff. This is how I've completed end game content in other mmos.

However, for Savage, I had someone personally coaching me during the content via discord, which also is a way I learn too lel.

[Jeeqbit]

Or at least release a compendium book for it. WoW does a similar thing, even for new raids, back when I played. Like it'll tell you what mechanics will one shot you, or the roles of each class is in the raid, like it'll tell you what to do as a DPS, what to do as a Tank, explain the phases of each boss, etc.

The intention for old fights was you stand behind the purple line and discuss strategies with your party. Then you do the fight, wipe, learn from the mechanics, study the battle log and status effects, discuss the strategy behind the purple line, then try again.

So to release some sort of guide would go counter to their design philosophy back then. What they do with modern design, however, is make the mechanics intuitive (aka obvious) at a glance, so you immediately know what they do without needing to read status effects or anything like that.

Many of these duties have Duty Support now, as well and they show you how to do the mechanics, which is about as good as it could get.

But if you truly want a guide, MTQcapture has made one for just about every dungeon, trial and raid at https://www.youtube.com/@MTQcapture/videos

There are some online guides, such as on Youtube, but they are pretty boring to watch depending on the commentator or poor quality.

There have always been text guides produced by hardcore raid FCs and as the game has grown, the amount of text guides has grown too. Now you can find these guides on consolegameswiki, websites that have worked with The Balance and a bunch of websites that started covering FFXIV after WoW's negative press in an effort to branch out.

Like I wanna at least do TWR before Dawntrail. Would anybody else appreciate this feature.

No, because I like FFXIV's original design philosophy of "here's the fight, figure it out yourself". What is the point of a fight if they just spoil how to do it for you?

[Jeeqbit]

With how I learn, I often take the bites and pieces while I'm in an instance, then after several attempts to memorize those bites and pieces while doing the content, I gain the muscle memory, impulse memory or whatever, to complete that content.

Right? So does everyone. They learn the fight gradually, mechanic-by-mechanic, phase-by-phase, rather than all in one go.

for the guides I've found, well on Youtube, I can't stop what I'm doing to watch long dialogue on a boss

But you can watch the video an hour before starting the content and then take notes on any mechanics that are relevant to your role or that you think are not obvious ie. no point including a raid-wide aoe or a well-telegraphed donut aoe, just write down the really complex ones.

An old trick I used to use when I started the game, was to create a macro with my notes and I would press it whenever the fight began or when a mechanic came up to remind myself.

/echo Red Cast - run to B, then C
/echo Yellow Cast - run to A, then B
/echo Green Cast - run out, find where something is aiming, go relative north

Just an example. Short notes that summarize it for yourself, that you can click while fighting.

Buuuut, if you have links to "documents" on like the Ultimate raids, I would really appreciate it. I learn best reading from a google doc, or a powerpoint for learning end game content.

1. Google the fight name and you'll probably find a link to consolegamewiki at the top.
2. You will probably find icy-veins nearby.
3. You will probably also find SaltedXIV.
4. There are dedicated Ultimate discords that will have these text resources too. In fact, I see text resources referenced frequently in Ultimate PF descriptions.

[Hycinthus]

Not bad as an idea, maybe it can be an expansion from the Strategy Board feature that Dawntrail is releasing - and have it player-made and sharable per dungeon per raid, and anyone can upload their Strategy Board, and players can thumbs up the most effective ones.

[Kranel_San]

The only reason I want an adventurer's guide for dungeon, trial, and raid bosses is that I want to learn about the lore behind them, just as I enjoyed learning about WoW's bosses from the journal. Even after years of playing this game, a lot of bosses I encounter feel either filler or random without much to know about them if there's anything to begin with. Here's a list of just an example of bosses I'm curious about:

- The majority of Alexander bosses (From A1 to A11)
- E1 & E7 bosses
- The Dark elf boss in the most recent dungeon (The only thing you can know about him is that he guards the place, but why is he called a Dark elf? What's an elf from his perspective?)
- All three boses of the Aetherfont
- Cereberus and Angra Mainyu (Come on, there has to be something about them)

Of course, there's way more, and I realize some of these have lore drops in the Enclyopedias, but I prefer to learn about them in-game rather than external sources.