The case for whips : why theyre not weapons of torture

[sindriiisgaming]

so, i saw a lot of people saying the whip shouldnt be added because its a weapon of torture. i decided to look into the origin of whips and what they were used for.

so the standard whip people think of is called the "bullwhip or the shockwhip" contratry to the name, these are not weapons of torture . i will quiote the offical wikipedia article here

It is generally not used to actually strike an animal, as it would inflict excessive pain and is difficult to apply with precision.

the original use of these whips was actually for the sound they made, which was a loud crackle. this was designed to frighten the animals away and heard them *hence the name bullwhip* the reason we see old westerners with whips is a combination of the lasso they wielded to round up wild stallions and also the factmany were farmers cultivating the fertile new world

so why do we see whips as weapons of torture when there isnt examples of them historically used as animals cruelty devices.

- well from my reserch this is because of 2 things, one the riding crop, used by jockeys even today to incourage horses to change direction speed or jump (it does not hurt the horse when used properly)

They can also be used without inflicting pain, for audiovisual cues, such as in equestrianism.

Number two is the Cat-o-ninetails. a small multi ended whip with sevral fingers used for the lashing and scarring of PEOPLE, not really for animals

inflicting corporal punishment or torture on human targets

these whips were used to torture animals too, such as southerners using them to break wild stallions and bulls for sport and entiertainment. also by lion tamers in traveling circuses. most notably back ni the 19th centuary by a famous figure know as Thomas Macarte

so why give beastmaster a whip. well because it was the traditional weapon used in the handling of animals. the loud cracking could be a warning, the light smack a guide and overall a great hearding tool.

from a gameplay perspective : whips are kind of under represented in media. i found a small few mMos which have successfuly used whips
Elden ring/ Runescape 2007/ Dark Souls
all of these have mixed reviews. but this shows that whip are very nieche typically they offer long range and light strikes with fast movements

from an ethical perspective. okay if were going to argue whips torture = bad we must look at other weapons in game and there historical use., notable axes, daggers, scythes and shuriken. all of these are weapons of torture - the axe to behead, the dagger to scar and maim, the scythe to slit throats, and the shuriken to gouge. so why get etihical with whips... well simply put its an easy target, but ironially, historically. it wasnt used any more or less for torture. even on animals

[Atelier-Bagur]

One word, Castlevania. Nobody cares that the Belmonts fight evil with a holy whip and it looks cool.

Second word...ss, Indiana Jones. Nobody cares that an iconic character like Indy uses a trademark whip to fight baddies.

Who's arguing against whips?

[sindriiisgaming]

also, consider doing reserch into your favourite weapons to learn more about theyre actual uses : for example.. did you know a katana was not a primary weapon used by a samurai, the katana was sacred, alive and spiritual. to strike another katana with it was to comit a great sin, to break your katana was punished with death or sepukku...the typical samurai weapon was infact the mounted longbow.

the rapier was not a weapon of combat but of sport, used in fencing today its primary appeal is swordsmanship, same with the broadsword (pld wpn) typically medieval knights used spears, lances, halberds and bows to kill, the sword was to punish, or to knight. not to fight

two scythes exist in history, one you might think of as the rpr weapon, but the real one was a shinobi weapon, see, shinobi were assasins lurking in plain sight .. and they often used typical gardening tools to kill there targets

i could think of more but tbh id need to reserch, do your own, its fascinating.. but might ruin some weapons for you... because video games and fantasy do not respect real history

[Sensui]

Would likely just devolve into some weird ERP thing.

[sindriiisgaming]

Would likely just devolve into some weird ERP thing.

yoshidas stance on a buttslider

But if we were to have a slider where all of our players have the option to enlarge their behind,” Yoshida says, “we would have to look at all of our equipment, which there are thousands in the game! We would have to remake each one because we have to anticipate some people might slide their butt slider all the way to maximum, and trying to accommodate for that is physically impossible unless we implemented this physics simulation so that the model of the fabric wouldn’t overlap with the model of the behind “Maybe, perhaps if everybody’s hardware and the specs of the processing power goes up, or if we had hypothetically revamped our graphics engine, it might not be impossible. But unless we do that, I think it’s quite difficult to accommodate. Again, it’s not impossible but if asked when it’s coming, we don’t know.”

there is glam in the game that literally gives you a bigger more vuluptious butt, i think at this point we shouldnt care about erpers because square doesnt. the masses shouldnt be denied a weapon because a handful of degens (all who likley mod it onto there rapier anyway) use it for that. (also yokotaro admits 2B was a S-X doll and asks his fans to send him 2B hentai. so there is NO defending those panties)

“Due to the 2B butt controversy, many outrageous drawings are being made. Collecting them to share individually is a pain. It would be great if we can group them together to make it easier to distribute them every week.”

https://x.com/yokotaro/status/818147107638943744?s=20

if you think this is crazy check this comment by mutome toriyama, creator of ffXIII
Toriyama: That may be the case. But I do love her with all my heart. It's the reason I wanted every little imperfection corrected in Lightning Returns so of course I wanted her b---ts to be bigger and for them to jiggle.

what if they said the reason we cant have bare feet was to prevent foot fetishes? it would sound dumb and lazy. thats how the case against erpers sound. we literally just added furry cat moms into the game.. you cant stop the fetishers, just avoid them

[Boblawblah]

Beastmaster:



Blue mage:


Wait..I've confused myself.

[sindriiisgaming]

One word, Castlevania. Nobody cares that the Belmonts fight evil with a holy whip and it looks cool.

Second word...ss, Indiana Jones. Nobody cares that an iconic character like Indy uses a trademark whip to fight baddies.

Who's arguing against whips?

found this 1 so far

To be fair, I don't think you can criticize with the real world application of Dual Wielding swords in the same post you are trying to sell Whips as an actual weapon.

Whips are a tool of punishment and torture. They have never been a battlefield weapon, with good reason.

[Thurmnmurmn]

I hear them being a sex tool way more than a torture tool.
Especially that bluemage pic above. Exposes belly button. What a slut!

[sindriiisgaming]

I hear them being a sex tool way more than a torture tool.
Especially that bluemage pic above. Exposes belly button. What a slut!

BDSM is controll/torture fetish. its not what they were made for, its not a bullwhip they use as its to hard to aim. (ppl fantascize about it but a real dominatrix uses a cat-o-nine tails; actually designed for human torture)

ppl prolly got the idea they use bullwhipe because of cat woman ( a dominatrix)

[Gemina]

because video games and fantasy do not respect real history

Since when did they need to? Most weapons in video games and fantasy not only do not adhere to history, they are also ridiculously impractical for actual combat. There are tons of videos out there showcasing this. Shadeversity is a good channel to look at for exploring the effectiveness of weapons and armor both real and imagined.

Weapons in games and animation only need to kick butt and look cool while they do it.