whats up with the pictomancer hate

[DiaDeem]

Quick reminder that this is the character whom inspired the job.

Relm's been around for 30 years.

[Burmecia]

Because clearly there is no possible middle ground between Tellytubbies and Berserk

Damn right there isn't.

[Sunhwapark]

The vfx look unfinished, so I hope they are improved.
Not gonna even factor in gameplay potential yet since it’s probably just gonna be summoner 2.0 anyway, replace the summons with a a coloured paint pot of your choosing.

[ty_taurus]

Quick reminder that this is the character whom inspired the job.

Relm's been around for 30 years.

Here's actually the full set of her animations before the death of DFFOO. RIP.

[xbahax92]

This is another challenge for the players to reach a consensus which Yoshida mentioned, I guess?
Good luck.

[Eldtagg]

I agree that Pictomancer could be interesting and exciting, but I think it's a shame that Pictomancer is the main job and Beastmaster is the restricted option when I was hoping the order was reversed, especially since Pictomancer appears to be a generic caster when I was hoping for something new, but time will tell.

I should mention that XIV is my first Final Fantasy game that I've played somewhat seriously, and when I think of a magical painter, I don't think of the character "Relm", but rather Grimstroke (from imaginary asia) from Dota 2 who was a power hungry man who turned into an undead "asian" demon after he did some really bad things, killed his own people, and now uses his black corrupted tainted ink to consume the souls of his enemies.
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If anyone is interested in how Grimstroke's skills look in Dota 2: https://youtu.be/bi4VWS7TwJQ?si=mN0HWHd1ce29QwGI

[RitsukoSonoda]

Somewhere in one of those threads about new job speculations ppl were talking about Yoshi-P wearing a ninja turtles shirt and I recall pointing out one of the new jobs might be artist because the turtles were all named after renaissance painters and ppl blew it off saying the new jobs were going to be green mage and a dps sharing scouting gear with ninja... >.>

IMO I fail to see logic in people saying Green Mage was going to be a new caster DPS when the iterations of the job I can think of had it as a pure supporter with no offensive ability outside basic melee attacks with it's weapon. It would be more likely to appear as a new Healer job.

[Zeastria]

The only decent looking battle effect shown in the trailer.



These are awful.

Agree! Looks horrible..
imagine ... the ice..if it had textures like these instead:

Obv this is a crystal and not ice.. but you get to see the style.

[Merrigan]

Obviously: we have too many colorful, fanciful, playful looking jobs in this game already. It's time to put had stop on this nonsense!

Would someone please think of people exclusively interested in broody, dark and masculine aesthetics? It will be painfully hard for them to enjoy this job.

And I'm pretty sure pictomancer is genderlocked, too? Yeah, if you view the keynote in severse, slowed down by 50% you can see the message flashing in the background.
Says "GSRM only".

As said above by another player, there's an in-between between Teletubbies and Berserk. And to add another thing: your post misses the point, because we have a huge number of classes in FFXIV that are closer to the aesthetic traditionally considered "feminine", whether through animations or job sets. A few jobs are more masculine (and... frankly, they're not the majority), and most are completely "androgynous".I've always played female characters for the sake of immersion in the game, and I'm still struggling to find classes from which I'd feel excluded because they seem to be aimed exclusively at men. You know, the kind of jobs that would scream "TESTOSTERONE" to such an extent that even someone who isn't too keen on traditional genders would find it hard to play them as a woman. The reverse seems more questionable to me.

Aside: it would be a good idea to stop confusing "masculine" with "serious", and "feminine" with "childish".

As for the "dark lord" aesthetic, it appears in a few classes... But it's by no means the majority either. DRK, DRG, Reaper could be considered "dark lord". And... that's all.

[PercibelTheren]

There’s also the third group, which really loves Pictomancer and wants to play it, but were disappointed by the initial gameplay video and just want it to be as good as it can be.

I guess I'm a fourth group, then. This is my first FF game, so I have no attachments to jobs or characters from older titles. Pictomancer as a concept was already on thin ice for me because it just sounds incredibly silly. Then I saw the effects and...it's just way worse than I imagined? The effects look like something out of Splatoon with sounds to match. It seems jarring and out of place, even for FFXIV with its anachronisms and silly things. Good for the people who are excited for it, I know for me, it's going on the pile of jobs I have zero interest in ever playing.