Isn't "Artist" a better name?

[Fyrebrand]

Get ready to be mad about the names of their moves, too.

A lot of those are amazing, but I think "Indefensible Teal" is my favourite. Imagine a teal so repulsive, there is no justification for it.

I was actually thinking earlier today that "brush with death" needs to be some kind of Pictomancer spell or trait.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Just think, With the addition of Pictomancer in FFXIV "I'm going to paint your portrait" will return to being a threat. :3

[CKNovel]

"Artist" is too vague and covers music and dance, BRD and DNC falls under the "Artist" category.
Pictography is the exact word of someone who works by drawing pictures.
-Mancer suffix is used to designated someone using something for mystical, divine, magic purpose.

Such as Geomancer.
If it was Geomancer no one would complain about its name.

[sindriiisgaming]

Heyho,

I love how simple most of the job names are in this game. All of them are easy to remember and imagine what they do. Except for Gunbreaker, which should have been called Gunblade.

Monk.
Reaper.
Astrologian.
Black Mage.
White Mage.
Red Mage.
Blue Mage.
Machinist.
Viper. (Kinda sucks at telling you what it is but easily builds rapport over time due to 2 syllables)
Summoner.
Ninja.
Paladin.
Samurai.
Dark Knight.
Dancer.
Sage.
Bard.
Warrior.
Scholar.
Artist.

It just fits!

You can still have it be inspired by Relm (who is an artist by the way) without duplicating the hyper-unique weird ass job name. Necromancer is the only job that's allowed the -mancer title imo because there's no simpler substitute and it's universally known. Even Geomancer is too niche. But if you have an easy substitute - Artist - just use it!

That's my opinion anyway, what do you think?

while id have liked artist too the name kinda has to be picto because of what it is

[sindriiisgaming]

"Artist" is too vague and covers music and dance, BRD and DNC falls under the "Artist" category.
Pictography is the exact word of someone who works by drawing pictures.
-Mancer suffix is used to designated someone using something for mystical, divine, magic purpose.

Such as Geomancer.
If it was Geomancer no one would complain about its name.

kung fu is also an art - martial art

[Volgia]

Technically Krille is an AI artist.

[Turtledeluxe]

Those are all very easy words. Pictomancer is way too fancy.

So is it about understanding or is it about syllables? Becuase I've already proven that not all names are easy to pronounce and I've also proven not all names are easy to understand. So your post doesn't work, I'm sorry.

Also Pictomancer is not an artist, period end of story. It is not predicated on creating art. It is a fictional painter that instantiates things they've observed into life. The job has nothing to do with traditional ideas of art, which is another reason why all the whiners trying to hold it to some kind of strict artistic standard sound incredible dense. A real life painter cannot paint stones into a 3D earth attack, nor is combat their motivation.

As others have pointed out it's impractical as well. If you want to say this class is an artist well then virtually all of them are, not just BRD or DNC.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

You wanna argue.

Nobody in the history of the universe ever confused DNC for a little ladies' day dancer. Or a SCH for any other kind of scholar.

That's my entire argument - semantics don't matter. So you can just call it Artist. Nobody will be confused.

To be fair, in-universe the terms aren't going to be confused as much as 'Artist' would.
the term of Scholar as it relates to the SCH job comes from a civilization long collapsed (Nym). Very few people in-universe are going to confuse the terms simply because outside of the WoL, the job of SCH is basically extinct. To the infinitely vast majority in-universe, the only term Scholar applies to is the traditionally defined Academic Scholar. Sharlayan even has their own form of healer based on similar principles of the ancient Scholars - except its called Academician (Alphinaud is one).

The DNC troup involved in the DNC job questline is an interesting thing because for all intents and purposes, they want to simply have people believe they're just ordinary dancers, since their whole goal is to attract crowds to draw our the negative energy. In-universe, they don't want their skills to have a unique name, because they want to be incognito. So having people not be confused on what they are vs actual normal dancers is their point.

Contrast that to Artist, which is a very widely used term in-universe already.

All of them are easy to remember and imagine what they do.

Because anyone not intimately familiar with FF lore is totally gonna know that Black Mages are mages who use various types of elemental magics and not some kind of darkness-element themed caster.
Or that Red Mage is all about doing spells from both black & white mages with a bit of swordplay mixed in, instead of some mage specializing in something that thematically makes sense with its name like Fire.
Or that Blue Mage is about learning enemy skills rather than being a mage that specializes in something thematically to its name like water.

Pictomancer straight up tells you exactly what it does given that its the combination of the words 'Pictography', or basically the essence of utilization of pictures for communication, and mancer, a user of a specific type of magic. Combined, you have 'mage who utilizes pictures'. If anything, it tells more about its job than 90% of the jobs in FF14 do with just its name.

[LilimoLimomo]

An "artist" is already a thing. Alphinaud is referred to multiple times as being an artist. Since Pictomancer is a significantly different thing than an artist, it is better if these two different things are referred to with two different words.

[Burmecia]

Hmm, maybe.
But also definitely more boring.