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    Eisi's Avatar
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    Eiserne Sternschnuppe
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    Isn't "Artist" a better name?

    Heyho,

    I love how simple most of the job names are in this game. All of them are easy to remember and imagine what they do. Except for Gunbreaker, which should have been called Gunblade.

    Monk.
    Reaper.
    Astrologian.
    Black Mage.
    White Mage.
    Red Mage.
    Blue Mage.
    Machinist.
    Viper. (Kinda sucks at telling you what it is but easily builds rapport over time due to 2 syllables)
    Summoner.
    Ninja.
    Paladin.
    Samurai.
    Dark Knight.
    Dancer.
    Sage.
    Bard.
    Warrior.
    Scholar.
    Artist.

    It just fits!

    You can still have it be inspired by Relm (who is an artist by the way) without duplicating the hyper-unique weird ass job name. Necromancer is the only job that's allowed the -mancer title imo because there's no simpler substitute and it's universally known. Even Geomancer is too niche. But if you have an easy substitute - Artist - just use it!

    That's my opinion anyway, what do you think?
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    adding mancer to a word definitely isn't unique in anyway.

    sorta like adding a color to the title mage definitely isn't a good naming convention.

    i feel just about any name would have been meh while i would have liked something different than pictomancer the other two options were painter or artist, maybe someone else could have came up with a more fantasy esc name but overall the naming options for the job were pretty bad.
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    Midi Ajihri
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    "Pictomancer" has been the job's official name in other Final Fantasy and Bravely Default media so I don't understand why they would need to change the name starting now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    "Pictomancer" has been the job's official name in other Final Fantasy and Bravely Default media so I don't understand why they would need to change the name starting now.
    Has any Final Fantasy game ever actually called it "Pictomancer" in the English version? I definitely don't remember Relm being called a Pictomancer back in the day. Maybe I'm just old and don't remember
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Has any Final Fantasy game ever actually called it "Pictomancer" in the English version? I definitely don't remember Relm being called a Pictomancer back in the day. Maybe I'm just old and don't remember
    In the game menu when you select Relm it has her job title "Pictomancer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    In the game menu when you select Relm it has her job title "Pictomancer".
    OMG, I totally forgot that. Still don't remember it on the SNES FFIII version though. Guess I just didn't pay attention when I was that young.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    In the game menu when you select Relm it has her job title "Pictomancer".

    Is this the SNES version? I don't remember their jobs actually being listed in the main menu.

    I was around 10-12 when I played FFVI (it was FFIII at the time here in the US). The game did not use the classic job system like FFI and FFIV (this was FFII here in the US). My friends and I would refer to the characters of VI based on their weapon, unique skill, attire, or just their name. Our history with the franchise was in the very early stages as the actual other FF games (II, III, and V were not released in the US at the time), so we related the characters to what we knew, which was things like D&D, Conan, LoTR, etc.

    Ceres was a knight
    Shadow was a Ninja
    Cyan was a Samurai
    Locke was a Thief
    Terra was an Esper because the game specifically refers to her this way
    Strago was a Mage

    Iirc characters like Setzer and Gau were ambiguous and we just referred to them as their names. However, what I know for certain was that we did not refer to Edgar as Machinist or Relm as a Pictomancer. These job titles came about after the release of FFVI. I honestly didn't know Relm was a Pictomancer until recently because I had no idea this title even existed.

    I'm not stating any of this as fact and just going off of memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Is this the SNES version? I don't remember their jobs actually being listed in the main menu.
    This is the Advance version.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Has any Final Fantasy game ever actually called it "Pictomancer" in the English version? I definitely don't remember Relm being called a Pictomancer back in the day. Maybe I'm just old and don't remember
    yes, the original Japanese naming for Relm's class in FFVI is ピクトマンサー Pikutomansa aka Pictomancer. The class names only existed in the original JPN version. The NA SNES release omitted the job titles in the menu and even omitted the feature of renaming Cyan's Bushido skills using kanji.
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    i disagree i like it being distinguishable from a normal artist.

    they have used the term artist in the msq, its a common term in at least 2 shards for someone expressive in the arts, but not really a combatant.
    if anything i think Dancer/Scholar needs a different name more befitting the combat role it actually is
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