Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
It was two dragoons and a white mage. We kept wiping because in the lower zones you can pull everything for five miles and no one had an AoE but the tank, which I don't think he realized based on how he was pulling. There is no excuse for any job to not have an AoE in their 30s. Doubly so if that job is supposed to be dps. The only reason it's stretched out in a weird, stupid way is because we have 90 levels now and they want you to keep getting goodies as you level. But it seems to have been figured out by different people, which is why some jobs have rotations by 50 while other jobs have nothing. That's not good, that's not fun, that's not satisfying. How many people are doing their roulettes because they enjoy going through level 30 dungeons with their two abilities and not because they need tomestones?
Personally I'm more on your side about every class/job having one AoE by level 30. I don't think it's necessary for everyone to have one at 15 though. I did want to point out how everyone getting the same abilities at the same level just add to the dissatisfaction with jobs being homogenized and feeling mostly the same.

The first 3 dungeons do not need the AoEs even if the tank is chain pulling. If the wipe was in Sastasha, Tam Tara or Copperbell, it sounds more like the tank didn't communicate with the rest of the party about what they intended to do or make certain they're aware that certain trash will reset if you run past without attacking/healing.

But by the time players reach Haukke Manor, those AoEs have become important. If a class doesn't already have an AoE by then, I'd be onboard with SE making an AoE the skill rewarded with their level 30 class quest.

I do challenge your statement that there are jobs with nothing for a rotation at level 50. I can't think of any job where that is true other than the healers, which I'm fine with even as a healer main.

As for roulettes, if you're after tomestones there are better choices to make than the leveling or guildhest roulettes. Those the only ones that will drop you down to low levels with only 2 buttons to use. You'll be 50 or higher in the rest.