Final fantasy xiv 1.23b server relaunch?

[LioJen]

an XI remake was in the works up until a few years ago actually, so SE obviously sees it as a worthwhile endeavor, but after Nexon folded up on the project they might be gun-shy about trying again any time soon.

I think all they would need to do to revitalize interest is combine the launcher and give a discounted sub with XIV.

As for 1.x content getting revisited... how about To Kill A Raven (Ultimate) or even (Unreal)? (and no, Coils is not the same thing just because it features a version of Nael)

[Larirawiel]

Not to mention Yoshi himself already shot down that request long ago - it's impossible from a technical standpoint (something about SE completely deleted the underlying source code for 1.0 after it was shut down for the final time on December 31st 2012).

You do not need the sourcecode of the original game to restore the behavior of it.


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[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You do not need the sourcecode of the original game to restore the behavior of it.


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It's a lot more work lol.

[midnitdragoon]

You do not need the sourcecode of the original game to restore the behavior of it.


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Is there a source for that? That's craaaaazy. So so all the hours of work spent on that, just gone? I find it hard to believe, but at same time I'm not shocked if that did indeed happen after arr released. I remember few years back, blizzard was asked about remaking Diablo 2. They said that it wasn't possible because of the programming back then.... Maybe source code? But here we are few years later, they found a way to remake Diablo 2.

I feel that in the end, money can solve the problem, if they want to do it

[TheMightyMollusk]

Y'know, I have a physical copy of FFXI that I got as a gift but never opened (I was still into WoW at the time and didn't want to pay for two MMOs). I wonder if the code still works.

[Lunalepsy]

Now hear me out, before anyone says nightmare this, nightmare that....

What if Yoshi P launches a classic 1. 23b server, same battle system as it was back then, but with QoL systems in place (ex: auction house/market board, companions etc).

I feel like the 1.0 story... It deserves to be experienced. Like I know there are YouTube videos, but sometimes I really wish I can go through the story again. Die from that over powered monster outside gridania, fight monsters while hearing that killer battle theme! I dunno, wish there was a way to experience some of it to some extent.

Call me crazy but.... Part of me wants to experience this fight for example

https://youtu.be/Uq3fKwetD3k?si=ECyrsQBbQRZ9CTST

Too many ppl are used to WoW now. Going back to a pre-WoW mentality is too stressful for this community.

[Enkidoh]

Is there a source for that? That's craaaaazy. So so all the hours of work spent on that, just gone? I find it hard to believe, but at same time I'm not shocked if that did indeed happen after arr released. I remember few years back, blizzard was asked about remaking Diablo 2. They said that it wasn't possible because of the programming back then.... Maybe source code? But here we are few years later, they found a way to remake Diablo 2.

I feel that in the end, money can solve the problem, if they want to do it

It definetely happens - Square themselves famously binned the master files for FFVII after it was released - it's why the PC port of FFVII was so buggy, Eidos (who was an independent company back then), were given an earlier beta build version rather than the final masters used by Sony for the PS1 version, as Square said the original FFVII master version no longer existed and couldn't be located, and was presumed deleted for some reason.

Given 1.0 was an utter failure as as a game, ARR did not need the original client files to run, and SE were frankly wanting to wash their hands of the whole debacle, little wonder they binned 1.0 completely.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

If it did that would've been an insane growth achievement. People needed the game and an additional modem and hard drive to even play the game. Dial up was still around in some places and the internet as a whole wasn't a necessity like it is today. Smartphones weren't even a big thing. So comparing it to a modern day MMO isn't really applicable.

Anyways, nothing we've discussed here has pointed to the game being anything other than a resounding success with a few people who didn't like it. It seems to me it's good remake material. If they've remastered other FFs surely its previously most profitable one also deserves to be remastered. That's all I'm gonna say.

Ever quest peaked at abiut the same numbers, and ever quest 2 is still going also.





Wow came out shortly after XI did and we know how that story goes.



I don't know that I agree with you on only a few people not liking XI, but I won't argue it's success.





I do really wonder how many people who think they want xi but shiny actually want like, the "good era" of XI but shiny.





Times have changed a lot and most of those people are my age or older now. And I'm not exactly young anymore.

[Gerolan]

Always bugs me when people say XI wasn’t that big due to only half a million subscribers, I still remember having to use dial up to play when it launched, as you correctly pointed out, EQ2 is still going strong
For it’s time XI was incredibly successful, sure in the modern age it is dated, especially the things like randomly speaking to NPCs and hope they have a quest, rather than a marker, but I use to spend hours in some zones just taking in the scenery

[Ath192]

Always bugs me when people say XI wasn’t that big due to only half a million subscribers, I still remember having to use dial up to play when it launched, as you correctly pointed out, EQ2 is still going strong
For it’s time XI was incredibly successful, sure in the modern age it is dated, especially the things like randomly speaking to NPCs and hope they have a quest, rather than a marker, but I use to spend hours in some zones just taking in the scenery

If there was a demand for it then, I feel there would be a demand for it now. Sure some of us may not have the time (even myself, I mean I have work and family) to prog it every day but there are A LOT of people who do. Labor force participation is shrinking meaning more people don't work and get sustained by someone else, there are still plenty of kids and college students that don't do anything during the summer and for people like us we would just go slower. The disabled would have an easier time playing something like that than say.... IDK trying to clear a savage or ult where the pacing means you're always moving and pressing buttons really quickly.

I just feel a well executed, modernized version of a progression focused and slow paced MMO would find the same crowd of fans it did back then when the gamer pool was a lot smaller and had more challenges.

Given that no company wants to gamble though, I feel remaking XI with XIVs Engine and seeing how that venture goes would be a great way to save costs and try it out. Especially with the graphics update is receiving in 7.0. I mean XI fans would be over the moon with a nicer looking version of their MMO.

Or unreal, since they're using that over at CBU1, which ever proves economical and more upgradeable in the long run.