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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Green Mage, Geomancer (probably have to have a different name), druid, etc- I would have liked such ideas more. Corsair and Viper are similar to my sense of taste ('okay') and Pictomancer just felt like a limited job escaped lol. On one hand I'm happy they tried something so wild even though I don't care for the theme, on the other hand it makes me a bit more miffed about blue mage because they did it with pictomancer but not blue, and I had really wanted to main it (and felt it was an opportunity for them to shine interesting and divergent design).

    Definitely not going to riot about either, but they're not really my tea either. Maybe a good thing if perhaps others haven't been represented since I felt I have been for so long? (Sans blue.. lol). Have seen some people respond positively so that might be the right of it.

    Suggested it in another thread but I would like to suggest bonus content to pictomancer in the form paints. Pick ink painting, Okami, bright and peppy, etc. Would add more individuality to the job, and so potentially help people jive with it.

    On the side of clover tease, I wonder why they like to misdirect people.. it seems like a good way to disappoint people who were hopeful. Could be misreading and not intentional, but I saw people go through a similar rollercoaster with Chemist and it didn't seem to be a positive thing.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-09-2024 at 12:47 PM.

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    Zoh Chah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    On the side of clover tease, I wonder why they like to misdirect people.. it seems like a good way to disappoint people who were hopeful. Could be misreading and not intentional, but I saw people go through a similar rollercoaster with Chemist and it didn't seem to be a positive thing.
    To generate discussion and hype? Viewing old versions of jobs as failed attempts? To try and be one step ahead of the community? Just spitballing.

    Like chemist existed, it was old astrologian. But I guess that wouldn't be as exciting from a PR perspective to bring back something that got old yellered.
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    Tanu Ki
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    I would have preferred Corsair, but I like the look of Viper and will gladly take it. Though this means a potential future Corsair may end up being in the phys-ranged role, and I don't yet know what to make of that possibility.

    I don't feel strongly enough about Geomancer or Pictomancer to prefer one or the other, but I'll say I think the choice of aesthetic they went with for Picto was a good one. After seeing it, I think the game needs it and is better for it.
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhemmer View Post
    I would have preferred Corsair, but I like the look of Viper and will gladly take it. Though this means a potential future Corsair may end up being in the phys-ranged role, and I don't yet know what to make of that possibility.

    NO! Bliztballer next for Phys Ranged >:I
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Guys, that airship has sailed, GEO and COR are never coming, may as well just accept that and move on (GEO in FFXIV's lore is just the Far Eastern version of CNJ with some AST thrown in for good measure anyway, and COR would just be MCH with a silly RNG mechanic, which is what it's FFXI version is.).

    And like Green Mage, SE is clearly moving on from 'existing' Job names and instead creating new Jobs based on previous FF characters, which is why we got VPR and PCT (okay, we are getting BST too though, so... maybe there is some hope, as remote as it is...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    GEO in FFXIV's lore is just the Far Eastern version of CNJ with some AST thrown in for good measure anyway,
    Lore is never a good excuse to not do something. Like male miqo'te/viera being "too rare" to play as.

    Could easily just have the job trainer NPC be like "oh I'm from Tural/Meracydia/wherever and this is what we call a Geomancer" and have it not fit the existing awful lore from the terrible AST quests.
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    Ishimar Furial
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    Personal preference on the table I'd have taken most any other job over pictomancer. I love Realm as a character but they picked up on a very simple premise and tried to make an entire job out of it. Not a bad plan and the job may wind up being fun but so far I'm just not impressed.

    BUT I do like the idea of using characters as templates and unlike Sage, Pictomancer does at least seem to line up with Realm at least a bit. From that game alone we still have a half-esper, a magi-tech knight, a mimic, a potential claw using martial artist, a monster copy cat, and a yeti. That also opens up a number of other vague concepts from other games to play around with.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    I was die hard team Corsair, and some kind of green caster, but I'm totally fine with Viper, and Pictomancer.
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    Sigmund Galt
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    Tonberry
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I'm still not sure wth is a job like Pictomancer doing in the game. It feels so out of place. They had so many other options to choose from.

    Probably the most unpopular job ever created. Geomancer or Chemist were the way to go. Viper is nice and would not change it.

    Also, why the fck they made BST a limited job? I was so excited about it and well... at least we have it I guess. BST is really something I'm looking forward to.
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    Last edited by Ryskim; 01-16-2024 at 01:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    To generate discussion and hype? Viewing old versions of jobs as failed attempts? To try and be one step ahead of the community? Just spitballing.

    Like chemist existed, it was old astrologian. But I guess that wouldn't be as exciting from a PR perspective to bring back something that got old yellered.
    I would think bad hype is not good, but hey I don't get outrage marketing either lol. I would accept generate discussion though, perhaps as a type of poll almost. However... how about just increasing community interaction and do an actual poll then? The other two reasons seem to be not great choices either. Though again I'm definitely not a marketing scholar so maybe it's too rocket science for me /shrug.

    If it was intentional it feels like 1 step forward (discussion) for 2 steps back (upset/disappointed players). Why bother? To generate discussion is the reason I paused on a little though, it might be that (but as I said I wish they would just actually discuss then, not be like "HAHA GOTCHA, YOU GOT PUNKED" lol).
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