Female Hrothgar muzzle looks too small [Feedback]

[Bremma]

Adding in my agreement that I love these tweaks and think they greatly improve the faces for Fem Hrothgar!

[HeyMcFly]

The edits legit fix the issue hands down
the before looks like a human wearing a cat mask prosthetic but your edits look more like it's a proper cat beast race
Subtle changes really can make that kind of difference
+1 well done!

[Korppu]

replying to show my support to this as well! as a furry who's been anxiously waiting for the female hroths for a long time, i'm also in the boat of feeling perhaps a little conflicted how i feel about the faces they've shown so far.

your edits are really well done, and you've explained the reasons why the faces look a little "off" in a very detailed and understandable manner.

[NovaTolkien]

I think a lot of folks I see having issues with them bring up the muzzle and I do agree too.
I like them now too but there's room for improvement so hopefully, some of the devs will take notice.
Also, I hope there's a Fang option.
We've still got 6-8 months to go until Dawntrail so maybe there will be some changes.

[MsQi]

I like both versions and I hope they add the longer muzzle as an option.

[Oleander-Temenoa]

Yes!!! These edits are so good! Everything else is perfect, I just think the muzzles and noses turned out too small. The second image with the sloped nose is EXACTLY what I had wanted to see.

[Zeastria]

Agree on this, They look way too human-looking with the current muzzle.

[Liamont]

Your edits have helped me realize why the female hrothgar looked so strange. Agreed with this, hope SE sees this.

[Pip_Chick]

+1 to this, it is a small change that solves a lot of things!

[grinkdaboy]

I don't know if making a separate thread instead of adding to a big one is going to help the devs see our feedback, but I really want them to get the beastial faces for the fem hroth right.

I understand that they were never going to look as beastly as male hrothgar, but I do think the muzzles could be improved on, because as of now they look incredibly uncanny. They look more like a human woman wearing latex makeup, so the issue here is that the upper lips are too small, and the mouth opening is also too small to resemble an actual feline's mouth. I don't think making the muzzles longer is a solution here, thinking realistically, but rather making anatomical tweaks around the upper lips and the mouth corners could work as a solution. So for starters, pulling the corners of the mouth into the face so that they align with the eyes in a profile view and making the upper lips fuller and rounder is the way to go in my opinion.





Thinking from the perspective that would give the devs as little trouble as possible, I really think making the mouth look less human would be perfect to achieve that animal look for the mouth while keeping the elegance of the design. If lions are too exaggeratedly "masculine" to use as a reference, at least use housecats as reference so their animal faces stop looking so uncanny.


The mouth corners are important to make this design work!





Comparing to a male hrothgar which doesn't have this problem, they look almost like they're from different species, but I think I made my point! Also I really wish we get actual fang options for them, but I don't know if that's in the dev's plans. Either way, Thank you for listening!

ill be honest male hrothgar look really stupid with their faces jutting out of their head