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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Dragoon Lv 72

    A few concerns about Pictomancer

    I really like the concept of painting through aether magic. I think it has great potential. I'm happy for everyone who's excited to play the class as well.

    I did have some concerns after watching the trailer for it and although I doubt much can be done to fix any of these by launch, I thought I'd post about them anyway to get others' thoughts and discuss it.

    1) The neon is overkill - Remember when you changed the design of the Sage icon because of the concern from people who have a fear of things with small holes in them (I forget the name). I feel like a much larger number of people are going to have a visceral reaction to these bright, garish colors and goofy effects.

    I get it, you guys just came off the Fall Guys crossover and that was bright and bouncy and lighthearted but there's a place for that sort of thing in game (like the Moogle and Sabotender weapons and mounts or people in frog suits) without it being too much. When you wrap the whole class in that aesthetic it's like being forced to watch Caillou 24 hours a day on repeat. If nothing else, can we (on the client side) tone down the colors a little?

    It's going to affect caster gear in a negative way - You know how so much of the aiming gear is tailored toward Bard? You rarely see a dungeon drop that's machinist-themed or dancer-themed. It's always floofy pants or billowy shirts or feathered hats. Caster gear is going to go from robes to mismatched pajama sets (not that we don't already have those in game though...)

    You already do really cool brush effects with the Byakko weapons - What happened to that? Those blend in well without being garish. I'm feeling like someone took a look at the Fall Guys assets and went "Wait... what if we shaved months off development time by reusing these??"

    I have a feeling Pictomancer is going to go through a Machinist rebirth where it gets completely overhauled a couple times until it finds its place. And please for the love of Hydaelyn, cool it on the splurpy sound effects.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    With what certainty do you claim that casting gear will be all about pictomancer aesthetic? Has healer gear been majorly about sage aesthetic in endwalker? Even your own example speaks against you because both mch and dnc released after brd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    With what certainty do you claim that casting gear will be all about pictomancer aesthetic? Has healer gear been majorly about sage aesthetic in endwalker? Even your own example speaks against you because both mch and dnc released after brd.
    SE is clearly starting to change direction with glamour in the game as part of their effort to attract new (and presumably younger) players.

    There's also been multiple requests for SE to move away from the usual robed caster looks. The Pictomancer aesthetic helps cater to that request.

    I doubt it's going to be all caster gear in Dawntrail but it's probably going to be more than what we've seen with Aiming gear.
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    Egil Vairemont
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    I gave up on this team when they added a high chair and a damn children's bed.
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    Nah... The real concern is not having Yoshi-P wear the Pictomancer costume on stage... >.>
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    I totally agree that the colors and cartoony nature of what we have been shown is a total shut down for me when it comes to the class. If the brush strokes were toned down and not so cartoonish it would be so much better. As it is now it reminds me of bad 60s kids shows.
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    When I saw the first bit of the intro, I thought "Splatoon", Will Pictomancers be able to swim around in their paint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I totally agree that the colors and cartoony nature of what we have been shown is a total shut down for me when it comes to the class. If the brush strokes were toned down and not so cartoonish it would be so much better. As it is now it reminds me of bad 60s kids shows.
    This.

    It can still be cute and have the same aesthetic without being overkill like it is currently.

    Caster gear will probably be fine going forward. BLM is Yoshi P's favorite after all. Even if we do get an expansions worth of more elegant or cuter casting gear, I'd be fine. There's a lot of edgy casting gear out there.
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    Well, it looks really cute. That's all l care about, and it will be my main.
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 90
    Looks like one of those jobs that'll be extremely popular with the casual folks who'll need to take a break from standing around in Limsa to run a dungeon or alliance raid to feel cute while playing.

    I can't see anyone taking it to savage/ultimate progs cause watching those animations over and over will get very old, very quick.
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