I can't find the fun in this game any more

[CNitsah]

"problems"

What problems are you talking about? I am sure there were all sorts of complaints back then, as there has always been and probably always will be, but it is most unclear which ones you refer to.

The lack of proper long term/farming content. ARR had relics, HW had that with diadem and relics, SB with Eureka, ShB with relics inside or outside Bozja/Zadnor and Ishgarian reconstruction. EW has zero content with shelf life, which made most mmo players that mostly shut up in the past. The content that we constantly get told "It's not what FFXIV is supposed to be about", but that was still there since the game launched.

Now, they seem to have finally tackle that problem, but some would say waiting for the next expansion and not find a way to do something (maybe not a full zone, but something that would have given Fates Interest and occupy people that wanted to play more) the past year and a half was a dealbreaker). FFXIV had the back to ignore that, because of its aura, ) all it provided in the past, its backlog content and the fact that despite lacking replayability, the content released is still good, but if any other mmo did that, it would be a shitstorm. 2 year (by the time DT will release) to tackle that type of misdirection is freaking long.

[Colt47]

Lots of players cried loudly for harder content. Now you are saying they shouldn't get it?

But even so, I don't really see any increased push from the developers for hard end-game content. There was hard end-game content in HW. There is hard end-game content in EW. Nothing much has changed on that point.




"problems"

What problems are you talking about? I am sure there were all sorts of complaints back then, as there has always been and probably always will be, but it is most unclear which ones you refer to.

Already elaborated in several threads on it.

All I'll say is that it is impossible in real life to learn from something if you can't live through it. If I got shot by a firearm and am now dead, I am not going to learn how to dodge a bullet. If every other mechanic is going to check if someone is dead and if they are, the raid dies, no one is going to learn much of anything.

Likewise, all the power the healers have is simply there to cater to the mitigation matters mentality. The pattern is "big aoe attack or big tank buster", healer uses one to three skills to heal the group back to full, then hit the boss with their flavorful version of a wet sponge. It would literally be the same thing if healers had better damage rotations and just a couple of recovery spells. Heck, it would be a better world if having to rez people cuts out dps alongside the rez debuff, thus people get to at least see more of the fight and just wipe because of not making the dps check.

[Swordsman]

I loved this game from when I started in 3.4 to Endwalker, and Endwalker killed it for me. I can barely be bothered to finish the MSQ for months after the patch's release, and have no more desire to do even extreme trials or 24 man raids, much less savage. Dawntrail looks even worse than Endwalker. The new jobs are not interesting or emotionally investing at all. It's sickening how they make BLU a limited job but Pictomancer a DPS. I love Relm from FF6, but BLU is the staple FF job.

I hate to see how much this game peaked in Heavensward and Shadowbringers only to plummet so far down with no recovery in sight.

Before you redditors cry about negativity, I loved this game. I have every right to criticize it, and do so because I want to see it be good again instead of bad as it currently is. I want to love FF14, but currently I only do for what it was, not what it became. The direction has shifted entirely in the wrong way.

I get what you mean. EW kinda killed the game for many players, and we can only hope that DT returns the game back to some semblance of its former glory.

[Bad_Luck]

I don't agree at all, Endwalker was amazing and Dawntrail looks great. Bye.

[FudoMyoo]

Legit suggestion for someone playing since 2010. and ARR in 2013.

if you bored of the game (& if you don't own a house), just unsub for a few months and wait for more contents before coming back again.

I do this for expansion(s) that I don't like. (Stormblood & Endwalker being the 2 of them).

P.S. I couldn't unsub EW because I own a house since ShB. So I (& wife) login once a month into the house to avoid demolition. We still play other games actively.

[OdinelStarrei]

Honestly, the mistake you're making isn't that you're criticizing, or that you disagree with the direction of the game, those are pretty rational actions depending on what you're looking for in an experience, especially if those features are no longer being provided.

The issue is that if you're looking for a reason to be excited, you've already lost. For someone like you, the best thing would be to be as stoic and neutral as possible. As someone who absolutely despises almost everything about Endwalker from story to gameplay to content design, I am well aware that the odds of things changing from one expansion to the next are marginal at best with this current trajectory, there's no reason to. So expect the worst, and hope for nothing. That way, if things do change, AWESOME. If they don't, you aren't surprised. Minimal to zero investment is key, and you have the bonus points of it being the healthiest option in the grand scheme of things.

Regardless, no matter how much you want it, we are never going back home. That's just the way it is, and at best, we're getting Shadowbringers 3, with the same lack of shake ups to the core gameplay experience, if that's something you care about. I even broke my own rules by saying, "Oh, Solution Nine looks interesting, surely there will be interesting new characters and a great culture to expand on." before I remembered I might be disappointed if I even humor that idea. So I threw it away.

Like, if the expansion is as mid as this one is for me, I'll just go back to playing Monster Hunter, a series that actually cares about the gameplay experience of it's fans, it's not like my friends are coming back and that I'm chained down or anything. It's not that big of a deal.

[Palladiamors]

Yea, that's my curtain call. That live letter didn't show me a single thing I was interested in and actively made me angry with Beastmaster being a limited job. Endwalker killed my love of the game and Dawntrail buried it.

Nine years is the longest I've ever played an MMO though so while I'm sad my time here has come to an end, it gave me a lot of good memories.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Yea, that's my curtain call. That live letter didn't show me a single thing I was interested in and actively made me angry with Beastmaster being a limited job. Endwalker killed my love of the game and Dawntrail buried it.

Nine years is the longest I've ever played an MMO though so while I'm sad my time here has come to an end, it gave me a lot of good memories.

I admire yet pity that you somehow thought they'd do a 180 on this fanfest otherwise, considering that everything that was shown was very much expected. You should've jumped off the boat years ago if this the case, because really what were you expecting from this game at this point.

Im not saying this in spite, Im just questioning your logic with how you came to be disappointed and how somehow this keynote was your breaking point (especially since for a lot of people that were not happy with EW's post content, they;ve acknowledged and announced the return of exploratory zones and more). Cant feel sorry for you with this post but I suppose you're free to express it regardless if its nonsensical

[Mithron]

I admire yet pity that you somehow thought they'd do a 180 on this fanfest otherwise, considering that everything that was shown was very much expected. You should've jumped off the boat years ago if this the case, because really what were you expecting from this game at this point.

Im not saying this in spite, Im just questioning your logic with how you came to be disappointed and how somehow this keynote was your breaking point (especially since for a lot of people that were not happy with EW's post content, they;ve acknowledged and announced the return of exploratory zones and more). Cant feel sorry for you with this post but I suppose you're free to express it regardless if its nonsensical

I expect good content. I don't mind if the content is the same and predictable, so long as it's good. This game's content hasn't been good for a long time now. That isn't a "burnout" problem or a "me" problem, that's an objective loss of quality being consistently shown.

What I expected:

1. Compelling and interesting story
2. Announcement of and emphasis on removal of 2 minute meta and major combat overhaul so every job actually feels unique and fun again
3. Actual cool and good new jobs that reflect what the player base actually wants and pulls from FF history and tradition and classic theme

What I got:

1. The most boring and least compelling story and trailer we've ever seen
2. Emphasis on nothing that matters, though this isn't uncommon from their past
3. Boring, uninspired and game worsening jobs that no one really wanted while insulting classic FF jobs

It's mostly 1 and 3 that are problem, they've been problems for a long time and continue to worsen, not improve, on top of everything else that considerably worsens

[Lady_Silvermoon]

*snip*

Thank you for answering why you're unhappy.

1. I also didn't find the DT trailer very interesting, however, without actually playing the story how can you know if it's good or not? I mean while it looked like an island vacation to go do a colonialism, we have stuff like Solution 9 and space travel, so there is likely more to it than heading to a new continent to go do war crimes. *fingers crossed*
2. Why did you expect this? They've been progressively making the jobs easier. Did you have any reason to think they'd go back on this?
3. I feel like this is the real reason. You didn't get the job you were hoping for. Which one was it? Because both Viper and Pictomancer are past FF jobs.

I'm sorry you didn't get the job you were hoping for, but given the current state of jobs, it'd just be a reskinned role anyway. "Awww, they didn't paint gambler animations of top of my magic DPS. "