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    yeah like, the big issue with apartments is that they're smaller than real-life studio apartments and the game keeps giving you outdoor housing furnishings as rewards (say, for FATEs - the very long Azim Steppe chain gives you one) which you can only desynth or sell. I think what bugs people on the base level is being reminded of a feature they can't use because it's out of their control. I'd love to have a house. I would've decorated my island sanctuary even harder if they gave me a higher item limit. But with the current scarcity I'd have to grind gil and then basically pray to RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancalagon_Blacktalon View Post
    yeah like, the big issue with apartments is that they're smaller than real-life studio apartments and the game keeps giving you outdoor housing furnishings as rewards (say, for FATEs - the very long Azim Steppe chain gives you one) which you can only desynth or sell. I think what bugs people on the base level is being reminded of a feature they can't use because it's out of their control. I'd love to have a house. I would've decorated my island sanctuary even harder if they gave me a higher item limit. But with the current scarcity I'd have to grind gil and then basically pray to RNG.
    These players are not breft of housing. It's one thing if housing isn't available at all.It's another thing to have housing, but not want it because you( not you) don't want to settle until a plot (of their choosing) becomes available.

    Apt users think Apts aren't enough compared to smalls

    Small plot users think smalls aren't enough compared to a medium.

    Medium plot users think mediums aren't enough compared to a large

    A large plot user would think a mansion isn't enough if their was another size bigger plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    These players are not breft of housing. It's one thing if housing isn't available at all.It's another thing to have housing, but not want it because you( not you) don't want to settle until a plot (of their choosing) becomes available.

    Apt users think Apts aren't enough compared to smalls

    Small plot users think smalls aren't enough compared to a medium.

    Medium plot users think mediums aren't enough compared to a large

    A large plot user would think a mansion isn't enough if their was another size bigger plot.
    Mao agrees except for one thing. When Mao gots small house, Mao was so happys. Mao thought apartsment too small but small house has plenty space. Mao still thinks like that even today now that Mao has medium house. Mao does NOT want large house though! Is too much space for Mao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao agrees except for one thing. When Mao gots small house, Mao was so happys. Mao thought apartsment too small but small house has plenty space. Mao still thinks like that even today now that Mao has medium house. Mao does NOT want large house though! Is too much space for Mao.
    *pets*

    Good Mao.

    Honestly I don't know why folks are not willing to get a starter home; I had a small for about 3 years before I won the bid for my medium; I have no intention of bidding on a Large for a personal because frankly decorating one is exhausting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    *pets*

    Good Mao.

    Honestly I don't know why folks are not willing to get a starter home; I had a small for about 3 years before I won the bid for my medium; I have no intention of bidding on a Large for a personal because frankly decorating one is exhausting.
    I was the odd bird that had a medium and went back to a small. I just like the inside and outside layout better.
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    I support instanced housing in whatever form. If only we already had an instanced island to plop a house on...
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    I love how people are against this when the devs could easily make a 200 player visit limit. The wards were also for the community feel but you don't got one.

    Only lively spots are venues or the occasional fc person at their fc.

    Otherwise they are dead wards. Mainly held by multi house owners or players who only login to keep their virtual property.

    So tell me how keeping it as it currently is is a good idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    These players are not breft of housing. It's one thing if housing isn't available at all.It's another thing to have housing, but not want it because you( not you) don't want to settle until a plot (of their choosing) becomes available.

    Apt users think Apts aren't enough compared to smalls.
    Apt sizes is a problem, but yes, by the end it's a nitpick. However I would argue that they are inherently lesser than a real house because you can't use any outdoor gear with them, or grow things in gardens at all - thus they lack features houses have, and those same features are ones the game keeps reminding you of by giving you rewards for property that you can't even use. I don't think it's bragging rights or anything, I legit think that when you drill down to it, the problem that people tend to have is that they're locked out of content in the game, and it's in a way they don't have a lot of control over (which is probably why you don't see a similar level of grousing with PvP series rewards).

    Re: availability, so I'm on adamantoise and can't speak to other servers but personally every time I tried to get a small there'd be other people on it in the bidding process and they would win it, so I've stopped trying because even smalls in less-desirable locations have something like ten people or more bidding on them, and with the money I have I can only try on one house at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    I love how people are against this when the devs could easily make a 200 player visit limit. The wards were also for the community feel but you don't got one.

    Only lively spots are venues or the occasional fc person at their fc.

    Otherwise they are dead wards. Mainly held by multi house owners or players who only login to keep their virtual property.

    So tell me how keeping it as it currently is is a good idea?
    It's just personal preference for some.

    If there are that many players that truly enjoy the wards over a better instanced system, no reason to get rid of what has already been made.

    But they need to stop adding more wards when that isn't satisfying what players want (with this I'm referring to a player's ability to get the size/location option they want) and start putting resources into an enhanced instanced system. Most of the basics are already part of the housing system or in other parts of the game.

    Replace the boring default interior architecture with art textures and backgrounds used in the open world zones. Make the exterior fixtures into optional proper house frame furnishings for those who don't want to go freestyle with their housing design. They've got the potential to make the best MMORPG housing system ever without having to start over from scratch with the ability to let players choose between wards or instances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's just personal preference for some.

    If there are that many players that truly enjoy the wards over a better instanced system, no reason to get rid of what has already been made.

    But they need to stop adding more wards when that isn't satisfying what players want (with this I'm referring to a player's ability to get the size/location option they want) and start putting resources into an enhanced instanced system. Most of the basics are already part of the housing system or in other parts of the game.

    Replace the boring default interior architecture with art textures and backgrounds used in the open world zones. Make the exterior fixtures into optional proper house frame furnishings for those who don't want to go freestyle with their housing design. They've got the potential to make the best MMORPG housing system ever without having to start over from scratch with the ability to let players choose between wards or instances.
    The issue is...everyone got greedy. Everyone with fcs want mediums or lqrges so lots of smalls tend to be open.
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