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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Imagine being an owner of a large and having 50 people constantly teleporting to their large that is in the same spot as yours. Like those bot swarms teleporting in cities, but in front of your own house that is supposed to be a sanctuary.
    First the wards are really empty as they’re. Second
    You would only see people on your yard if they decide to go to your instanced plot. Otherwise they would be outside the fence if there’s really that many people that visit their home. Thirdly the wards will look full since there are more people around their homes and feel like a village instead of a ghost town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    How much time do you spend standing in your yard by yourself looking at the placard that you would even notice it happening? You're definitely not going to see it happening if you are inside of your house.

    You're also greatly exaggerating how often it would happen considering those owning the instanced version of your plot would still be spread across 60 wards/subdivisions. You're not going to see every player on your world picking the same plot not to mention most of the time players aren't even in the wards. They'll be out playing the rest of the game.

    Keep in mind this isn't how I would want instanced housing to be set up. I want instanced housing to take us out of the wards and give us options throughout the game world, just as RIFT did with Dimensions. But since this thread is about the OP's suggestion, I was mentioning ways that it might work out.
    I’d definitely notice… I tend to take a lot of pictures of my house though. lol my screenshot folder probably takes up more space than the game itself!

    Definitely want instanced, but much prefer it to be in a separate location than at the plot placard.
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    people so angy :<
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    Basically, it would be like walking into a separate zone. Honestly, just have one of the random doors that are around in the wards lead out to a private housing area. Everything is gonna be copypaste. Generated, but at least the players will have the house that they want. Of course, it will be limited on who goes into it. Ergo friends list only, but they'll have the housing system they want.
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    Why can't we have instanced AND ward housing? Just give us bigger or upgradable apartment sizes.
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    This thread's funny to me. Whenever someone suggests just doing away with the system, a chief complaint (seen in this thread even) is "noooo, I need my community vibes, my neighborhood feel!" But OP's suggestion would add to that community. You'd have so many neighbors this way! But then it's "noooo I want to be left alone in solitude!!! I don't want to see people while I'm in my yard!"

    So what do you actually want? Do you just want to exist in an empty neighborhood? Would you be okay with instanced wards if your home were the only real home in it, surrounded by fake randomly generated NPC homes? You'd still get a neighborhood, and it'd be as empty and undecorated as the average neighborhood is now. Except it'd be instanced, meaning a lot of other people could also enjoy housing on worlds that aren't dead af. Genuinely curious what some of you actually want because every time I come here it's just people who got theirs defending this garbage ass system from any attempt at change because it'd wreck the "good thing" they have going, aka the ability to sit in a desolate "neighborhood" and print submarine money.

    Also OP's idea could work just fine without disturbing anyone. Just make it so that, like, let's say I'm in my house at ward 25 plot 34, and someone else pulls up to plot 34 and they also own a plot there. Make it so that when their house is in render distance on their screen, they stop being visible for players who own that same house. It's like they've already entered it. And now let's say I'm friends with this guy and want him to enjoy my house. BDO handled this part quite well. By clicking the placard, you could simply look up other people's homes who share that instanced plot and then visit. It'd be like the apartment directory. With like an ounce of imagination, OP's idea becomes totally fine without bothering anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    So what do you actually want? Do you just want to ...
    This has been answered multiple times in this thread. Read it. No one cares to have a discussion about your strawmans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It could always be set up so one plot is always the plot on display, with the instanced houses at the same location reached through a placard menu. There are a few ways to design such a system so it would work to satisfy the vast majority of players (will always be those few who find reason to complain).


    Houses do not make a community. People make a community.

    All the plots in my ward may be filled with houses decorated but it still feels like a ghost town without other players walking around.

    Your idea has the potential to make wards feel more like communities by adding more owners to the ward (even if their plots are instanced) but it will be dependent on how many players will spend time in a specific ward to talk to others. The game has too many wards to make that likely to happen.
    I think the reason why it's empty is because there is no content there and because a limited amount of players have invested interest in being there (plots). Why hang in the the Mist? Unless you have a plot or want to avoid the bustling in Limsa or just like the beachside vibe.
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    yeah like, the big issue with apartments is that they're smaller than real-life studio apartments and the game keeps giving you outdoor housing furnishings as rewards (say, for FATEs - the very long Azim Steppe chain gives you one) which you can only desynth or sell. I think what bugs people on the base level is being reminded of a feature they can't use because it's out of their control. I'd love to have a house. I would've decorated my island sanctuary even harder if they gave me a higher item limit. But with the current scarcity I'd have to grind gil and then basically pray to RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancalagon_Blacktalon View Post
    yeah like, the big issue with apartments is that they're smaller than real-life studio apartments and the game keeps giving you outdoor housing furnishings as rewards (say, for FATEs - the very long Azim Steppe chain gives you one) which you can only desynth or sell. I think what bugs people on the base level is being reminded of a feature they can't use because it's out of their control. I'd love to have a house. I would've decorated my island sanctuary even harder if they gave me a higher item limit. But with the current scarcity I'd have to grind gil and then basically pray to RNG.
    These players are not breft of housing. It's one thing if housing isn't available at all.It's another thing to have housing, but not want it because you( not you) don't want to settle until a plot (of their choosing) becomes available.

    Apt users think Apts aren't enough compared to smalls

    Small plot users think smalls aren't enough compared to a medium.

    Medium plot users think mediums aren't enough compared to a large

    A large plot user would think a mansion isn't enough if their was another size bigger plot.
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