Absolute state if the great ffxiv community

[sindriiisgaming]

(I cant fix the typo)
I'm sick of seeing ppl say ffxiv has an amazing community. It doesnt, everywhere I go every tiny crevice has toxicity and elietism. Lethargic 1 1 1 spammers in duty roulette, Party finder, megalomaniac fc leaders. Pvp "nice job" spam, toxic mentor and anti mentor rhetoric and even here on the forums. I knew this community had issues since some time. But when did we evolve into feral beasts attacking each other for our mogstation purchases shouldering the blame off yoshi p and onto other players.

It's true that buying cashshop items sends a message to them that its OK to make them. But it's not fair to shame players for spending there hard earned cash on things they enjoy. This community is supposed to be better than this...

[Reap00]

I hope you didn't work to hard coming up with this nonsense. There are better things you could be doing with your life. Do you realize your assessment of the community is your opinion? It only matters to you.

[sindriiisgaming]

I hope you didn't work to hard coming up with this nonsense. There are better things you could be doing with your life. Do you realize your assessment of the community is your opinion? It only matters to you.

Okay, what's ur point. What does that have to do with people attacking and shaming each other for there cashshop purchases. And why does my personal life have to be relevant, its nice u think there's better things I could do. But ultimately its not for you to decide what a grown adult woman does with her life

[LianaThorne]

Okay, what's ur point. What does that have to do with people attacking and shaming each other for there cashshop purchases.

I hope you never enter the gacha space and see how some in there treat whales. xD

This is nothing unusual, people get butthurt that they can't afford something and lash out or are so firmly against cash shops that anyone who participates in it is automatically part of the problem and deserving of being talked down to.

If you wanna spend money in games and openly talk about it, that's the risk you run. Sucks but tis life. You can't control other people, only yourself.

[Jeeqbit]

Lethargic 1 1 1 spammers in duty roulette

People who talk about an amazing community are not referring to how well the community executes a rotation. They are talking about their kindness and patience and how welcoming they are.

Party finder

Most of the people saying that the community is amazing are people who just do roulettes, seasonal events and stuff with their Free Company, because they are anxious about using PF on their own.

As for people who have overcome anxiety enough to start using PF, it really depends which parties you join. I only meet pleasant people in PF ever. Why? Because I avoid any PF descriptions that contain red flags, such as an impatient leader that is making demands or intends to kick people.

megalomaniac fc leaders

Welcome to life? You're going to find that in any game and anywhere in life tbh.

Pvp "nice job" spam.

If that's the legit worst thing you can come up with that this community does, then... yeah. It's a pretty amazing community. You only have to compare "nice job" to the sort of things that happened in Halo or League of Legends.

And even here on the forums.

These forums are like 0.008% of the community, many of which are the most burned out, long-time players.

it's not fair to shame players for spending there hard earned cash on things they enjoy. This community is supposed to be better than this...

Most people buy things from the cash shop... from veterans right down to the sprouts wandering in Central Shroud, they are riding cash shop mounts a lot of the time. The people attacking the cash shop are a tiny minority of FFXIV players who are probably Asmongold viewers.

[TheMightyMollusk]

These forums are like 0.008% of the community, many of which are the most burned out, long-time players.

I did not need to be called out like that.

[NekoMataMata]

The people attacking the cash shop are a tiny minority of FFXIV players who are probably Asmongold viewers.

I assume they're referring to me.

I never attacked someone for wearing mog store glam. I pointed out that the player in question who was wearing mog store glam was calling out another player for stating that they thought Square put way more effort into the mog store items than they did the game and that they were more excited for mog store releases than in-game releases.

Side note. I have mog store items. Not all entirely bought by myself because I'm poor and getting ripped off on the currency exchange rate makes it even more expensive than it already is, but I have it and I wear some pieces frequently. I'm not going to shame someone over wearing it. I will point out that a third of someone's outfit is mog store items when they're mocking someone else and saying they have no sense of glamour is because of their opinion on mog store items though.

For those who don't believe me, go have a read:

Here's a back to back to back set of quotes from start to beginning.

The issue isn't quantity, it's quality. It's very apparent that the Mogststion items (outside of the NPC cosplays because one item problems) are more interesting and of a higher quality compared to in game items we can get. Some are also questionable as to why they weren't just rewards for new content (Shadow Wolf, Cruise Chaser, the upcoming Lopporitt moon mount). I don't really care either way that there's a cash shop but we should be receiving the same quality of items in game as we get on the Mogstation. It's depressing that I get more excited for Mogststation items than I do in game item releases when it should be the reverse.

How to tell players haven't messed with glam in game for 500 Alex.

You realize your character is currently wearing a couple of pieces of overpriced mogstore glam, right? Don't really think you can be calling someone out for saying a lot of mogstore glam looks better than in-game releases.

OP is just a troll looking to stir up drama it seems.

[LianaThorne]

I assume they're referring to me.

I never attacked someone for wearing mog store glam. I pointed out that the player in question who was wearing mog store glam was calling out another player for stating that they thought Square put way more effort into the mog store items than they did the game and that they were more excited for mog store releases than in-game releases.

Side note. I have mog store items. Not all entirely bought by myself because I'm poor and getting ripped off on the currency exchange rate makes it even more expensive than it already is, but I have it and I wear some pieces frequently. I'm not going to shame someone over wearing it. I will point out that a third of someone's outfit is mog store items when they're mocking someone else and saying they have no sense of glamour is because of their opinion on mog store items though.

For those who don't believe me, go have a read:

Here's a back to back to back set of quotes from start to beginning.

OP is just a troll looking to stir up drama it seems.

Oh hey, it's me.

I didn't actually look that deep into it but now that I have, it's kind of hilarious that I'm being called out for my opinion while they're sporting two paid cosmetics and saying I'm the one who doesn't know how to mess with in-game glams. XD
Like hey man, rock what you wanna wear but at least have it make sense.

[Halivel]

I'm in FF14 since 2.16, and in 10 years of playing I honestly can count the really bad interactions on like... my two hands, and I'll have some fingers to spare after finishing. Can't say the same thing about other MMORPG projects I was or still am playing.

Is FF14 community perfect? No. No community is perfect so long as it consists of living people beings with different cultural backgrounds. Could it be better? Probably. But in comparison, FF14 playerbase is genuinely pretty great (especially if you spend your time actually playing the game instead of living on Forums).

What some people should stop doing is spreading (and believing) the false narrative that "great community" is somehow equal to "a pool of perfect UwU angels that have zero downsides".

[Eldtagg]

I have to disagree with the original poster.

I just returned after a year away and haven't seen much toxicity before or after the break, save from (what I wouldn't call toxicity) a player informing me that I caused no damage while leveling my lvl 58 RDM in Main scenario roulette yesterday.

He wasn't wrong; I probably didn't do a lot of damage because I don't know the class, but perhaps he should have kept it to himself?

I really feel that FFXIV has the best online community of any MMORPG!