Thread: 6.1 plothole?

Originally Posted by Hasrat

The question is "how did Azdaja traverse the rift between the Source and the Thirteenth (colloquially known as The Void)."

Buddy, imps manage that part. Frequently. Imps manage to find and go through a new voidgate very quickly in 6.1. And imps are weak and stupid! Getting to/from any other shard, not easy, clearly requires some major work and nobody's figured out the science quite yet. Getting to and from the Thirteenth? Happens by accident. Getting a stable gateway big enough to use is the hard part.

In fact, if you want to continue going through the story, 6.4 actually does have someone provide a functional theory for why travel to the Thirteenth is so easy but travel to anywhere else is so hard.

Originally Posted by Cleretic

In fact, if you want to continue going through the story, 6.4 actually does have someone provide a functional theory for why travel to the Thirteenth is so easy but travel to anywhere else is so hard.

Your reading comprehension is concerning... The very first sentence of this whole thread points out I'm wrapping up 6.5.

Imps most frequently manage to travel through fissures. As was also pointed out in the first post, Varshahn points out that fissures do not have the "guiding agent" constraint.

And, again, the information we are given is that travel through a voidgate, not a natural fissure, requires some guiding force to prevent any traveling being from finding themselves lost between worlds. I'm willing to take a leap on any given rational explanations, but you've made it clear you're not even reading anything here.

Originally Posted by Hasrat

The question is not "how did Azdaja traverse the void."

The question is "how did Azdaja traverse the rift between the Source and the Thirteenth (colloquially known as The Void)."

The "and then got lost" part is unclear, as Y'shtola's explanation indicates Azdaja should've gotten lost between worlds. The "guiding agent" comment indicates that traversing a voidgate without that guiding force can leave you adrift outside of the reflections.

You are confusing needing an actual literal guide to get around once you're on the Thirteenth with the need for some means to guide any being large or small to actually make it there in the first place.

Voidsent do not need a guide in the Source, but they do need to be guided through the rift to arrive on the Source from the Thirteenth (through a voidgate). Presumably, this works the same in the other direction. To which, Azdaja had no such means of being guided to the Thirteenth.

If any known being would be able to traverse the rift, I'd expect a dragon to be able to. Just because the sundered would need a guiding agent doesn't mean dragons would also need one. After all, it seems like Midgardsormr was able to perceive the reflections when he approached the Source. If that's the case, then it wouldn't be surprising his children could also perceive them and travel to one while inside the rift.