I removed mentor status today.

[Baingoleth]

Sargatanas used to have a helpful and entertaining novice network and I was happy to be mentor on that server. Other servers were having problems with their novice networks spiraling into filthy decay but Sargatanas was still keeping to the original vision for the chat in the face of that for years.

That's changed. All I see when I connected to the novice network for a long time now is degenerate filth. There is excessive trolling by both sprouts and mentors and it's totally out of check. There are also a lot of players who are constantly steering the conversation to their obsession with fetishes that most people in the chat are not involved with and again this is both sprouts and mentors. The trolling and fetish talk is actively encouraged.

I hoped some older mentors would help try to reign in the chat. They seem to not be coming around anymore either. If I was a new player connecting to that chat I would assume FFXIV is just full of trolls and furry ERP. If that's the impression you want SE, it's your decision to leave the novice network chats user moderated.

One of the last decent novice network chats is an embarrassment. And the crown is embarrassing.

RIP Sarg NN.

[Hyperia]

Most of the older mentors are on long term break until 7.0, I only log in to keep my house now.

[Stormpeaks]

Okay ? Good for you I guess? If you don't like it leave it, let people have fun. If the majority of the people in there are having fun, don't be the fun police.

[iVolke]

Okay ? Good for you I guess? If you don't like it leave it, let people have fun. If the majority of the people in there are having fun, don't be the fun police.

Imagine actually defending publicly speaking about fetish, furry, and incest porn.

Seems like if anyone complains about anything you're ready to jump down their throats. If anyone here is police, it's you.

[sindriiisgaming]

Imagine actually defending publicly speaking about fetish, furry, and incest porn.

Seems like if anyone complains about anything you're ready to jump down their throats. If anyone here is police, it's you.

If you don't like wats happening in nn. Either leave or report it and blist. Crying over it is a laughable waste of time

[iVolke]

If you don't like wats happening in nn. Either leave or report it and blist. Crying over it is a laughable waste of time

God forbid people have discussions on a forum.

[NealSnow]

God forbid people have discussions on a forum.

I hate to say it, but mans proving that male au'ra seem to attract a certain type of person to the race :|

[Stormpeaks]

Imagine actually defending publicly speaking about fetish, furry, and incest porn.

Seems like if anyone complains about anything you're ready to jump down their throats. If anyone here is police, it's you.

I actually hadnt seen this post

are you ok my dude ? i'd love for you to show evidences of me defending that please, thank you, that's a very very big claim to make.

[sindriiisgaming]

Sargatanas used to have a helpful and entertaining novice network and I was happy to be mentor on that server. Other servers were having problems with their novice networks spiraling into filthy decay but Sargatanas was still keeping to the original vision for the chat in the face of that for years.

That's changed. All I see when I connected to the novice network for a long time now is degenerate filth. There is excessive trolling by both sprouts and mentors and it's totally out of check. There are also a lot of players who are constantly steering the conversation to their obsession with fetishes that most people in the chat are not involved with and again this is both sprouts and mentors. The trolling and fetish talk is actively encouraged.

I hoped some older mentors would help try to reign in the chat. They seem to not be coming around anymore either. If I was a new player connecting to that chat I would assume FFXIV is just full of trolls and furry ERP. If that's the impression you want SE, it's your decision to leave the novice network chats user moderated.

One of the last decent novice network chats is an embarrassment. And the crown is embarrassing.

RIP Sarg NN.

The problem with mentors is this self appointed mentality they have about what being a mentor is about. Nobody's idea ever really homogines and it creates a tension of others not living up to youre/there expectations. The game DOES outline some basic mentor rules but these are in no way enforable because its etiquette anybody should follow.

All mentor is IS an achievement for being endgame ready on all 3 roles with 1500 commendations taking on average 3 weeks to grind on hlr. Its no great achievement but dementors cannot deal with this sobering reality. They need to constantly feel superior to sprouts and even other mentors. The nn is just a global chat dressed up as a noob help chat. But it's not at all. If it was the information would be correctly sourced, spite kicking wouldn't be a thing and players wouldn't s--tpost in it. Actual gms would be in it . If questions in nn get asked. Generally they get answered and ppl normally don't get berated. They do on my server but it's nn is toxic.

Once you release yourself from these ridiculous mentor expectations you'll be able to grind for your fancy pony and hang up the crown for good in dt. ( you don't need to renew it) I understand this is not the reply ppl wanna see or the truth they wanna face.. but it IS the truth.. because where is square out there doing anything to push it in the other direction. Nowhere. Enjoy ur ponny

[Baingoleth]

The game DOES outline some basic mentor rules but these are in no way enforable because its etiquette anybody should follow.

The mentors who were governing the channel when I was a sprout had some soft rules. No politics. No religion. No ERP. No advertising. No trolling. Warns and kicks were swift.

The nn is just a global chat dressed up as a noob help chat. But it's not at all. If it was the information would be correctly sourced, spite kicking wouldn't be a thing and players wouldn't s--tpost in it.

Since Sarg used to have a lot of hard content players often chat would be about optimizing the jobs and excitement over new content. I remember also a lot debates over the metagame also but it was friendly banter haha. As a new player I found it inspiring and I wanted to git gud. Mentors never used to kick mentors at all. It wasn't needed. Kickwars on Sarg is a relatively new development. People used to just be excellent to each other and I'm not sure why Sarg stayed classy for so long. I guess it was just the atmosphere the oldbies fostered. But those names are nowhere to be seen anymore except very few. (shoutout to True King. Classy player.)

Once you release yourself from these ridiculous mentor expectations you'll be able to grind for your fancy pony and hang up the crown for good in dt. ( you don't need to renew it) I understand this is not the reply ppl wanna see or the truth they wanna face.. but it IS the truth.. because where is square out there doing anything to push it in the other direction. Nowhere. Enjoy ur ponny

Haha I don't care about the mount. Looks like a long grind. Not something I'm interested in. I just revoked my mentor crown at the smith. I used to think striving to be a classy, welcoming mentor could change the image of mentors but the downward spiral is too steep now I think. I'm out.

Good take on the matter. I found your post insightful.