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    How I feel about Yoshida's Vagueness




    This sums it up. This is exactly WHAT I mean about Yoshida being Vague. We need more substantial responses and less of the Vague PR speak. But as soon as this doesn't pan out, people who feel slighted will be silenced again and told to Quit, leave, play another game, while Yoshida and CBU3 was just trampling over players trust.

    I don't understand why people don't see him doing that as an issue. Or is it because they're not the ones who are being slighted that they're fine, for now.

    And I think the best way to deal with how people reacted in the past, is to wait until all the systemsthat will be in the expansion are in place and in an alpha build, and sit down and show these systems, then ask for player feed back on them. SO people who don't like them can leave early, people can't rag(people will always rag on him let's be real) then it's a more involved process with how the game gets made with more direct player involvement.

    Because if they get all the confirmed features, put them in an alpha to show us, they can THEN make a thread, ON THESE FORUMS, And said thread can have a very solid description OF their current plans are susceptible to change and we can given structured feed back that isn;t rude or mean spirited. And bam, player driven content and the direct feed back he wants. Not everything will perfect but you save your own rear and make players happy.
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    Last edited by strawberrycake; 03-14-2024 at 08:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    I don't understand why people don't see him doing that as an issue.
    I don't understand why people make new threads to pander for attention instead of posting in the existing thread on the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    I don't understand why people make new threads to pander for attention instead of posting in the existing thread on the topic.
    Take that up with the none existent Community Managers^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Take that up with the none existent Community Managers^^
    You're not in control of your own behavior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    I don't understand why people make new threads to pander for attention instead of posting in the existing thread on the topic.
    Because as you can see when you read the JP forums all complaints are condensed into massive mega threads that cover like 15 topics without actually giving any of them enough room to breath then nothing g happens and any discussion gets stifled

    Even accounting for the fact that often JP players will simply upvote and move on rather than comment the JP forums are still boring as hell and offer no useful feedback to a casual observer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Because as you can see when you read the JP forums all complaints are condensed into massive mega threads that cover like 15 topics without actually giving any of them enough room to breath then nothing g happens and any discussion gets stifled

    Even accounting for the fact that often JP players will simply upvote and move on rather than comment the JP forums are still boring as hell and offer no useful feedback to a casual observer
    If these duplicate threads added anything unique or insightful to the conversation I would agree with you, but they are almost always just "LOOK AT ME! I'M USING WORDS TOO!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    If these duplicate threads added anything unique or insightful to the conversation I would agree with you, but they are almost always just "LOOK AT ME! I'M USING WORDS TOO!"
    They actually keep the conversation running for one

    I’m fine seeing repeat comments that then stimulate discussion and keep the conversation rolling than the absolute graveyard that is the JP forums where you try to post something and they link you to a vaguely related comment from 209 pages ago leading to not many people saying not much
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    I'd much rather having vague answers over a more concrete answer that may end up not being true.
    If it's not 100% confirmed, yes keep it vague.
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    There are three honest options available to Yoshida-san when answering a question about the future:
    1) a detailed answer according to what he currently believes, which leaves him open to attack if it turns out not to be true
    2) a vague answer
    3) no answer -- which seems a common norm in industry

    It's easy to understand why anyone would be reticent to go with option 1.
    So which would people prefer of the remaining two options?
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    There's a reason you never believe nor defend a multi-billion dollar company. They don't care about you, they want your profits, that's what PR talks is about, otherwise their shareholders would just dip instantly.
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