Stop engaging with threads you don't like

[Atelier-Bagur]

That's the vibe I get from there threads as well.

Heres the thing. I dont know if people know but its very easy to tell and differentiate between players who give criticism while still enjoy the game and those whom are just spiteful of it.

If somebody goes around constantly making click baity threads like this and garner attention to themselves and the negative aspects of the game. Thats somebody who clearly needs to unsub as what theyre doing is angrily shouting at a building. This was the case with some individuals in the forums such as Aveyond.

Its very obvious and clear that they seek major changes but dont want to commit to their own cause. And this is fine. Not everyone is going to accept the mediocrity that FFXIV provides since they dont take the game that seriously (like most of us here. Some people find parts of the game still enjoyable)

But the problem is that theyre doing this while still being part of the problem by spending money on SE whom are a business and they answer to player subs. It worked with WoW when people finally started voting with their money during Shadowlands and it sure as hell will work here if more people whom are just as disastified with the current game respond the same.

[Nebelheim]

Heres the thing. I dont know if people know but its very easy to tell and differentiate between players who give criticism while still enjoy the game and those whom are just spiteful of it.

If somebody goes around constantly making click baity threads like this and garner attention to themselves and the negative aspects of the game. Thats somebody who clearly needs to unsub as what theyre doing is angrily shouting at a building. This was the case with some individuals in the forums such as Aveyond.

Its very obvious and clear that they seek major changes but dont want to commit to their own cause. And this is fine. Not everyone is going to accept the mediocrity that FFXIV provides since they dont take the game that seriously (like most of us here. Some people find parts of the game still enjoyable)

But the problem is that theyre doing this while still being part of the problem by spending money on SE whom are a business and they answer to player subs. It worked with WoW when people finally started voting with their money during Shadowlands and it sure as hell will work here if more people whom are just as disastified with the current game respond the same.

I agree people should vote with there wallet and quietly leave rather then continue giving money to a game and company they clearly hate expecting giving them money will make them make the changes they want. It took a mass exodus from wow for Blizzard to finally make the changes people wanted and from what I hear wow is in a decent spot right now.

[sindriiisgaming]

I agree people should vote with there wallet and quietly leave rather then continue giving money to a game and company they clearly hate expecting giving them money will make them make the changes they want. It took a mass exodus from wow for Blizzard to finally make the changes people wanted and from what I hear wow is in a decent spot right now.

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

[Stormpeaks]

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

"rioting in servers"

[Nebelheim]

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

It wasn't streamers that made ff14 blow up in population or grow considering how boring ff14 streamers are with no personality. FF14 was able to grow pretty well on its own and didn't need the help of streamers averaging 1k viewers or less to bring people in. The only time the game ever blew up on twitch in popularity was when asmongold streamed it for his 2-3 month period that he streamed and once he stopped playing ff14 is back to having 3k or less viewers spread across a handful of people. A game with over a million active daily players and only being able to average less then 3k views a day across a few streamers I don't think it was twitch that built the games playerbase.

[Mosha]

million active daily players

It's nowhere near a mill outside patch releases.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

Thinking streamers built this games population is hilarious.

[sindriiisgaming]

Thinking streamers built this games population is hilarious.

No1 said that
Also didn't asmongold literally triple this games playerbase and break the servers

[LianaThorne]

No1 said that
Also didn't asmongold literally triple this games playerbase and break the servers

And half (or more) of those people only log on when he/another streamer are around to stalk around the game and seek out their 5 minutes of fame.

I wouldn't really call his influx of people substantial if they aren't actively playing the game without him around.

[Nebelheim]

No1 said that
Also didn't asmongold literally triple this games playerbase and break the servers

The game had roughly a little over 800k active players before he came and he only brought 100k max so I don't think he tripled the community.