Stop engaging with threads you don't like

[sindriiisgaming]

I agree people should vote with there wallet and quietly leave rather then continue giving money to a game and company they clearly hate expecting giving them money will make them make the changes they want. It took a mass exodus from wow for Blizzard to finally make the changes people wanted and from what I hear wow is in a decent spot right now.

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

[Stormpeaks]

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

"rioting in servers"

[Nebelheim]

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

It wasn't streamers that made ff14 blow up in population or grow considering how boring ff14 streamers are with no personality. FF14 was able to grow pretty well on its own and didn't need the help of streamers averaging 1k viewers or less to bring people in. The only time the game ever blew up on twitch in popularity was when asmongold streamed it for his 2-3 month period that he streamed and once he stopped playing ff14 is back to having 3k or less viewers spread across a handful of people. A game with over a million active daily players and only being able to average less then 3k views a day across a few streamers I don't think it was twitch that built the games playerbase.

[Mosha]

million active daily players

It's nowhere near a mill outside patch releases.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It also took several streamers to get it going. Xiv community needs sm1 to helm it before they'll commit. Zepla tried and failed. But trust me the day ppl start rioting in servers I'll happily join. It brought major changes on osrs it could bring em here

Thinking streamers built this games population is hilarious.

[sindriiisgaming]

Thinking streamers built this games population is hilarious.

No1 said that
Also didn't asmongold literally triple this games playerbase and break the servers

[Varilyon]

I don't like this thread. Here take my engagement

[Theodric]

The best solution is to simply make ample use of the ignore function. It's fairly easy to tell who is worth engaging with and who is simply here to cause drama or act in an exceedingly selfish way if you learn to look at pattern recognition.

One thing to remember is that this is the internet and a forum devoted to a ten year old game. As such there's going to be agitators who are incredibly socially awkward, shockingly so. It comes with the territory, unfortunately.

I've encountered a number of posters who treat different personal tastes as something worthy of scorn to the point of seeing an offer to agree to disagree as a personal attack. You're never going to get through to such individuals and they're never going to compromise on anything or avoid demanding that you like or dislike what they wish you to.

So rather than request that those individuals do not engage, you need to be pre-emptive - there's nothing they loathe more than to simply be ignored. This is especially true of the posters who forget that this forum is primarily a place to leave feedback and discuss the game, including elements that they may themselves not be interested in or enjoy.

[Arrius]

The best solution is to simply make ample use of the ignore function. It's fairly easy to tell who is worth engaging with and who is simply here to cause drama or act in an exceedingly selfish way if you learn to look at pattern recognition.

One thing to remember is that this is the internet and a forum devoted to a ten year old game. As such there's going to be agitators who are incredibly socially awkward, shockingly so. It comes with the territory, unfortunately.

I've encountered a number of posters who treat different personal tastes as something worthy of scorn to the point of seeing an offer to agree to disagree as a personal attack. You're never going to get through to such individuals and they're never going to compromise on anything or avoid demanding that you like or dislike what they wish you to.

So rather than request that those individuals do not engage, you need to be pre-emptive - there's nothing they loathe more than to simply be ignored. This is especially true of the posters who forget that this forum is primarily a place to leave feedback and discuss the game, including elements that they may themselves not be interested in or enjoy.

This requires a more collective approach in order to be effective, of which this likely not happen because the internet will always be open for everyone, good and ill-intentioned, the reasonable and discord-seeking. And those who just want to see it all, ready with a pack of popcorn, subtly adding fuel to the fire as well. Drama's one of the oldest form of entertainment, after all.

Personally, I'd rather see a more heavy-handed approach from the forum owners myself, with a stricter moderation and punishments that also tranfers to your gaming account.
Because if you let those people free reign and 'just' ignore them, you empower those to keep on going as they think they won with their 'argument'.

And sometimes, just like in the real world, harsh consequences need to be in place. Even when it means drop-kicking them (figuratively and literally) in order to keep them in line that their nonsense is not welcome nor tolerated here.

[Theodric]

This requires a more collective approach in order to be effective, of which this likely not happen because the internet will always be open for everyone, good and ill-intentioned, the reasonable and discord-seeking. And those who just want to see it all, ready with a pack of popcorn, subtly adding fuel to the fire as well. Drama's one of the oldest form of entertainment, after all.

Personally, I'd rather see a more heavy-handed approach from the forum owners myself, with a stricter moderation and punishments that also tranfers to your gaming account.
Because if you let those people free reign and 'just' ignore them, you empower those to keep on going as they think they won with their 'argument'.

And sometimes, just like in the real world, harsh consequences need to be in place. Even when it means drop-kicking them (figuratively and literally) in order to keep them in line that their nonsense is not welcome nor tolerated here.

What's interesting is that the forum did used to take a heavy handed approach yet it went too far in such a direction to the point where a number of players were permanently banned for fairly minor and arguably silly reasons. Granted, technically any business can choose to crack down on whoever they so fit but at the same time it isn't unreasonable to then expect those rules to be applied fairly and consistently across the board.

I'm personally in favour of having more of an official presence and engagement from community representatives, which is something I pushed for here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...epresentatives

It's the only reliable way for the business to gain feedback from players who lack a financial incentive to profit off of the game as opposed to influencers who are effectively bribed into championing a product on behalf of the creators of that product.

Q&A sessions that do not automatically filter out hard hitting questions would also be beneficial, I think.