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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    Pointing out the flaws of the game and how it was better designed is mental illness now i guess according to the PRO mental health care individuals of the forums lmao
    I don't see any saying that posting an opinion about the state of the game and how they liked some of the past design better is a problem.

    But continuing to pay month after month for a completely optional service that you no longer like in hopes that it will become you personally want? Yes, that's crazy.

    You don't have be subscribed to leave feedback for the developers. There are other places they and the Community Managers watch (though you have a better chance of your feedback getting through if you speak JP).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I don't see any saying that posting an opinion about the state of the game and how they liked some of the past design better is a problem.

    But continuing to pay month after month for a completely optional service that you no longer like in hopes that it will become you personally want? Yes, that's crazy.

    You don't have be subscribed to leave feedback for the developers. There are other places they and the Community Managers watch (though you have a better chance of your feedback getting through if you speak JP).
    You yourself said that you criticized wow back when you played it but now you tell others to keep their mouth shut?
    Any normal person won't be criticizing a game months on end if they don't like some aspects of it.
    The thing is that more and more people are just saying their piece now.
    Your issues with mental health don't reflect anyone elses experiences and are completely wack in the context of what is being discussed.
    You are picking parts of peoples texts and missunderstanding what is even being said.
    Why are you engaging with ppl who are trying to voice their dissatisfaction of the game and trying to tell them to just leave lmao? If you don't like the topic you can just not talk. I know, it seems very hard for you and many others

    Also to Striker44. It's a fact that most of the games aspects are worse designed than what they were and anyone who has played for longer than 1 or 2 expacs and has a few braincells can tell this.
    I would say that high end content is still one of the best in the market but anything below has been subpar and the biggest culprit are the combat/class changes.
    Also maps, story (trying to cram 2 expacs into 1 .0 patch was a mistake and the direction it went was so out of left field), mmo group content etc...

    Also i literally can't tell if the game is still mmorpg or mmo something, visual novel, rp venue with gameplay on the side, because the rpg aspects are pretty much non existent at this point.
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    Last edited by Solakor; 12-30-2023 at 12:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    You yourself said that you criticized wow back when you played it but now you tell others to keep their mouth shut?
    Any normal person won't be criticizing a game months on end if they don't like some aspects of it.
    The thing is that more and more people are just saying their piece now.
    Your issues with mental health don't reflect anyone elses experiences and are completely wack in the context of what is being discussed.
    You are picking parts of peoples texts and missunderstanding what is even being said.
    Why are you engaging with ppl who are trying to voice their dissatisfaction of the game and trying to tell them to just leave lmao? If you don't like the topic you can just not talk. I know, it seems very hard for you and many others

    Also to Striker44. It's a fact that most of the games aspects are worse designed than what they were and anyone who has played for longer than 1 or 2 expacs and has a few braincells can tell this.
    I would say that high end content is still one of the best in the market but anything below has been subpar and the biggest culprit are the combat/class changes.
    Also maps, story (trying to cram 2 expacs into 1 .0 patch was a mistake and the direction it went was so out of left field), mmo group content etc...

    Also i literally can't tell if the game is still mmorpg or mmo something, visual novel, rp venue with gameplay on the side, because the rpg aspects are pretty much non existent at this point.
    Idk if it's projection or what but it's really patronising tbh. I can moderate my own experience and decide for myself if something is worth pursuing. Just because one person has in the past had an unhealthy relationship to a game doesn't mean everyone has that same dynamic. There's nothing wrong with people pointing out parts of the game where they feel it is currently lacking. I just want the game I enjoy between my bouts of hyperfocus on other non game related projects to be enjoyable. It's not that deep.
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    Last edited by OgruMogru; 12-30-2023 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    Pointing out the flaws of the game and how it was better designed is mental illness now i guess according to the PRO mental health care individuals of the forums lmao
    I haven't seen that happen, but I would say that providing personal opinions and acting as if they're somehow objective facts is rather egocentric, no?
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    "I am merely voicing my dissatisfaction and trying to have a discussion, why can't you let me be? All I'm saying is that all my opinions are factual truth and everyone who disagrees with me is a window-licking idiot."

    This place may well be a circus, but nothing good has ever come of the attendees trying to out-perform the clowns.
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    Yea and posting twitter one liners is very inducing of conversation. I dunno why you guys are not honest and just tell ppl what you really want, which is to go away or stop talking but are trying to veil it behind these weird anecdotes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    This place may well be a circus, but nothing good has ever come of the attendees trying to out-perform the clowns.
    i feel the good is i get an even better show but that is just me.
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