We need to talk about the PC Gamer article

[StarRosie]

To be honest, no I do not read over the "why" behind why people say to unsub. There can be any number of motivations, none of them make sense.

There are plenty that make sense. Jojoya gives an incredibly valid one, speak with your wallet. Make a choice that is both smart for you and tells SE that you are unhappy with the product. And no, this isn't trying to get some "Magic scenario" to happen. It is general advice towards one person to make a decision that may or may not be the healthier decision for them. Does it make any form of financial sense for a player to pay 15$ a month for a game that has not been satisfying said player for 2 years? Or 4 years? Or more? Or one of the two times I have ever suggested someone consider unsubbing, when the person was showing some pretty clear signs of addiction towards the game, and it was making them irrational and ultra aggressive towards basically everyone. Do you think they should just be allowed to continue down that path? You SHOULD read why someone would suggest it. You SHOULD read someone's arguments and try to understand them. Because if you don't, and yet argue against them anyway, you are arguing against a strawman at that point. At that point, any argument you make is basically irrelevant because it isn't addressing anything someone is saying. You're just ranting against an imaginary argument. That's not discussion.

When I say you, it's the general you.

Yeah, I would suggest ya stop doing that. Because all it has done is made you come off like you're arguing against a strawman, and make you come off like a tool. Cause right now, when I'm using "You", I am strictly referring to you. Save for like, one part in quotations below.

That just means you're not willing to take accountability for your own browsing habits?

No? Again, maybe you should actually READ someone's arguments and understand what they are trying to say? Not treat them like they are part of some monolithic hivemind? Maybe then you will see they might be making a valid point and are therefore fully taking accountability for their browsing habits and see that maybe they aren't this strawman version of themselves you conjured up. Don't get me wrong. There are idiots, on both ends of this. But...If you do not like seeing people making "You should probably unsub." arguments. Maybe consider employing the same tools you are suggesting they use? By constantly engaging with these arguments, that you openly admit you do not read the reasoning of, are you also not taking accountability for your own browsing habits? I've blocked people on here who I just do not want to engage with, because they made my time browsing here miserable. However, the block function also leaves an enormous amount to be desired in terms of, as one user on here puts it, curating my browsing experience.

And it's not even equivalent because a player cannot just "opt out" of the two minute meta like you can opt out of a thread based on the title.

That's what going to play something else or unsubbing is! To pull something I talked about in another thread. "Play the game we have. Not the game we want." This is the mantra for Destiny 2's main PVP subreddit. And the whole meaning behind it is "You play the meta we have. Not the meta you want. If you try to play like we're in X meta while we are in Y meta, all you'll do is lose. Advocate for the changes you want. Give clear, calm, concise feedback on what the issues are. But when you log in to play, either play the game we currently have. Or don't and make yourself miserable. Your choice." it is a mentality meant to keep players from torturing themselves by playing a garbage meta that they hate. A mentality that puts the responsibility for their enjoyment of the game, into their hands. I hated the healing meta that popped up in Season of the Haunted and it stuck around for two seasons. So guess what? I didn't play PVP for two seasons. (Though, given the current state of the game...I don't play it at all right now.) And a lot of other people didn't play that meta either. So that forced Bungie to look at the feedback and the healing meta got nerfed. Hell, this even applied to high end PVE in that game. The overabundance of healing trivialized parts of high end PVE. And it also applies here too. Don't like the two minute meta? Fine, either go play content where it doesn't matter, or something else entirely. Don't get me wrong or try to twist my words. Players should, and I'm gonna repeat that, SHOULD advocate for the changes they want. Give clear, calm, concise feedback. But they should also make a choice that is HEALTHY for them too. Not continue to torture themselves by engaging with something they hate. What that healthy choice is, that is ultimately up to them. Some may give a suggestion. But again, the choice of what that healthy option is for them, is ultimately up to them. I'm not going to directly tell people to play something else or unsub. I ain't their mom. I might suggest delving into some side content they haven't done. But I'm not telling them to. I might suggest play something else. But I'm not telling them to. The choice is still their choice.

But also the game has a lot more than even the combat so why is the solution to unsub?

I don't know, maybe read the WHY and it might make sense. And even if it doesn't or you disagree, at least you will be able to make an INFORMED counterargument.

It doesn't make sense, just admit it and move on

If you don't read the reasoning behind it, yeah. It won't make sense. But maybe it might if you actually read what the person is saying.

It's a faulty insult based on someone's own incompetence to solve problems or address isolated concerns.

I genuinely do not understand how you can call that an insult. Is it always the best response? Oh god no. But it's not an insult.

It's throwing the whole burger away bc the restauraunt put mayo on it and you hate mayo.

Maybe they hate mayo because they're allergic to it. Again, this all just wraps back to maybe you should read what people are saying. Or employ the tools you are suggesting others use. But it also all comes back to something I said earlier...

Personally, I think everyone should maybe grow up a bit and learn to have an actual civil discussion rather then suggest echo chambers.

That's my Ted Talk. Thanks for coming. And again. I ain't got nothing against you. So if I said some things that are too harsh or came off mean spirited? My apologies. Live your best life, have a nice day. And I hope you have/had a happy holidays.