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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    You won't understand what I'm talking about if you didn't play before ShB because the big changes started after SB. The real ogs will argue that it went downhill after HW but i think that's a bit too far even for me
    And it begins.

    If you need context, I started playing at Heavensward's release though I didn't get really into the game until near the end of that expansion because I was still playing a lot of WoW back then.

    I understand that things have changed in the game. Again, different people play and enjoy the game for different reasons. You don't like the changes they've made over time. Other players do.

    The game will never go back to what it was to you if for no other reason than you are no longer new to the game. You've built up experience that can't be taken away from you short of some serious head trauma causing loss of memory. You've acquired skill that you won't lose until you end up with physical ailments that slow your reaction times and ability to button mash quickly. Those things allow you adjust faster to changes and new mechanics that SE implements in future content than newer players will be able to adjust. If you insist on only equipping the highest ilvl gear instead of doing the content MINE, you're making the content that much easier for yourself.

    If the game is no longer giving you the experience you want, it's time to move to another game. Reset your personal power progression (knowledge + skill + stats) and begin fresh. Sometimes that's what people really need - an opportunity to master something new. Games that you've been playing for several years are rarely going to offer that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    What i often do now as a healer is be lazy just stand in sh*t (unless extreme and above) because lets be honest most aoe's at this point hardly do any damage >_>
    Because the combat content below EX trial level is intended to be suitable for everyone regardless of knowledge and skill.

    I don't know why you would expect more.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-23-2023 at 10:39 AM.

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    You don't seem to understand that the game has changed so much from what it was that the enjoyment of some people has gone down too much at this point that the game is starting to feel stale or downright bad.
    It has nothing to do with experience when your job plays completely different from before and not in the good way.
    Removing interactions from the kits/fights and upping potencies served 0 purpose other than make the game worse.

    And to state the obvious I am playing other games. Also before you say, yes iv had breaks and last one was a year long.
    It just feels weird that when you loved a game and it was doing well the devs decide to suddenly axe bits and pieces of the gameplay for no apparent reason.

    Also before you say, Im only sending my feedback. I know it prolly does nothing.
    But it seems more and more people are starting to see the flaws that the game has and how it could be better and that is why we are doing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solakor View Post
    You don't seem to understand that the game has changed so much from what it was that the enjoyment of some people has gone down too much at this point that the game is starting to feel stale or downright bad..
    I do understand that some are not enjoying the game as much as they used you.

    You're ignoring that some players, including veterans who have been playing the game longer than you, are enjoying it still.

    I was addressing your complaints about content being too easy and babying players. I wasn't addressing your comments about job design but even those are a matter of opinion. Some find some of the current job designs better than the old ones, some don't. As much as I'd personally agree that upping potencies doesn't make things better, you'd be shocked at the huge percentage of players would state otherwise. All they care about is seeing huge numbers appear in the flying text on their screens. Those huge numbers whirling around sell games just like the sexual objectification of women unfortunately still does.

    Things change over time. You can't stop it.

    What you have is the ability to do is say "this is no longer the right game for me" and leave. Exercise your power as a consumer. If enough people take their money elsewhere, they'll notice. Maybe they make changes to bring back what you loved. Maybe they don't.

    You're certainly not going to get it if you and everyone else who feels the same way you do continuing to hang around handing SE their money. After all, they're still getting it from you and there are too many people in the world who complain just for the sake of complaining. As a business, they don't mind indulging those who do if those people are willing to pay them money for the privilege. They have no way of knowing who was serious about their complaints unless they disappear.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-23-2023 at 12:42 PM.