2.0 Leveling

**Xatsh** · 07-10-2012 12:52 AM

Honestly I just want 3 questions answered by the devs.

1) How do we level up all the jobs if the primary leveling is quest based? If it is quest based and say in the future SE adds another 8 jobs... how are we going to have the quest pool (which is not repetitive) to level say 14-15 jobs from say level 1-75. That would be potentially 10s of thousands of quest.

2) With quest based leveling are we going to be locked into 1 job => character model? This has me worried now with the quest leveling and the 8 free slots or whatever in 2.0... The 1 character for everything is one of the major positives for both XI and XIV.

3) The most important one, is solo questing XP going to be better then Group based XPing like every other WoW clone on the market? MMOs are group games, soloers need access to things to level at a decent rate but it should not = group gameplay xp rates.

I honestly think story driven leveling might be decent. But only if the focus is still on group gameplay IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME NOT JUST ENDGAME, there is no alt leveling spam, and the quest are interesting... nothing like Tera where it is literally 500 go kill 10 mob quest from lvl 1 to cap.

Need to make it like this if they are doing quest based level. Make the quest tiered in difficulty and reward.
Solo: get 2500 xp
Small group (2-4 ppl): get 2500 +50% xp for each member
Large Group (5-8 ppl): get 2500 +150% xp for each member

**Jinko** · 07-10-2012 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Elexia

Stop being a moron. If SE didn't care they not only wouldn't be MAKING A NEW EXPANSION but they would have ended service. They want everyone to play to play FFXIV.

So my idiotic little poster, stop confusing:

"Jinko doesn't care about FFXI players"

with

"SE doesn't care about FFXI subs."

Whats your logic to fight against the new expansion they're making if they didn't care about them? It's fine being an idiot but holy shit you can't be that retarded.

P.S your Lalafell is an exact copy of a FFXI taru model. Argue how they didn't make the races similar for the sole purpose of allowing XI players to recreate their avatars?

Oh I spoke disrespectfully of FFXI may the heavens rain wrath upon me !

Go away .. !

**Vaer** · 07-10-2012 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Xatsh

Honestly I just want 3 questions answered by the devs.

1) How do we level up all the jobs if the primary leveling is quest based? If it is quest based and say in the future SE adds another 8 jobs... how are we going to have the quest pool (which is not repetitive) to level say 14-15 jobs from say level 1-75. That would be potentially 10s of thousands of quest.

This is actually a great point. Maybe with repeatable quests and since they are touting their content finder, going to assume there will be dungeon grinding somewhere in there as well once they add more of them.

Let's not forget, all the stuff in 1.0 will be in 2.0, too. Leves, Behest, Caravan, Dungeons, etc.

We need more info. The answer in the interview is a little vague on what else will be available other than this quest based system.

Yeah, it'll probably be repetitive, but the system we have now is the same way. There is just not enough manpower to craft tons of new and different things all the time in a timely matter when most content these days are done in about a week and it takes a month, usually longer to actually come out with content that only lasts a week or two.

**Zantetsuken** · 07-10-2012 01:17 AM

nobody said that quest/mission leveling will be the ONLY way to level. Rather, as you go through the missions, you will find you have enough exp to do the next mission...

So your first job should get to 50 easily just going through the missions... after that, you can grind lvl normally if you chose (as I understand it)

I don't think its half as drastic as some of you are making it out to be...

**ToxicFox** · 07-10-2012 01:19 AM

You guys talk as if quest will be the only way to level up. Calm down do you really think SE will remove exp from mobs?

**Krausus** · 07-10-2012 01:49 AM

I'm guessing each class/job will have enough quests of their own (outside of main story) to level up.

**Starlord** · 07-10-2012 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by ToxicFox

You guys talk as if quest will be the only way to level up. Calm down do you really think SE will remove exp from mobs?

Welcome to the Forums! Where people love to overreact at almost everything! :O

**Jynx** · 07-10-2012 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by ToxicFox

You guys talk as if quest will be the only way to level up. Calm down do you really think SE will remove exp from mobs?

Would be nice if we ever got clarification though.

As much as I doubt they will make exp-parties on open world mobs pointless you never know.

**Aketo** · 07-10-2012 03:26 AM

Time will only tell how everything plays out, still I am hopeful for the future for Final Fantasy XIV.

**Duelle** · 07-10-2012 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Elexia

your Lalafell is an exact copy of a FFXI taru model. Argue how they didn't make the races similar for the sole purpose of allowing XI players to recreate their avatars?

You mean aside from the fact that it was part of their half-assed diatribe to get people to leave XI for XIV?

I wouldn't go as far as directly cloning WoW, but taking the things that work, twist and turn it until it makes sense in the IP's context and go from there. Class dynamics and the leveling model happen to be two of them. The latter is easier to stomach over spamming leves and standing in one spot kiling the same mob over and over again (which, by the way, is what drove several friends of mine from FFXI AND XIV). The former is my own personal preferrence, because it makes creating parties easier and has a higher chance of supporting my own playstyle choices over being forced to bend to some status quo created by the players.

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