2.0 Leveling

**Madrox** · 07-09-2012 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Elexia

Main problem: It's never been done right in an MMO before, so it always negates one route. Always. SE is creative but they are trying to make this like every other MMO on the market instead of standing out.

No, all they have to do is leave the grinding how it is now or similar and give fair amounts of experience through quests.. I am sorry to hear that you have never seem a decent balance between the two.. because that is a false statement.

Give fair rewards, and make enjoyable quests while leaving the option to grind. If the experience is not worth the effort then there will need to be adjustments.

It would be different if I was referring to perfecting the balance between pvp and pve, there are always issues with both sharing the same selection of skills. Don't overcomplicate this.

**Antanias** · 07-09-2012 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

it's not like they said "we'll removing exp camps", they just said we'll advance in levels doing content. I think exp caps will be still there as a choice

^ Exactly this.

More options never hurt this game, but then again there's just no pleasing Trollkien is there?

**Elexia** · 07-09-2012 07:03 AM

In every MMO I've played (Including new ones) people prefer leveling via quests than mob grinding unless the specific MMO is designed in a way you can only level reliably through mob grinding (usually in instanced dungeons.)

So no I've never seen a proper balance between the two because even if it exists, players will choose one route over the other, just like in XIV currently players choose job stacking over varied setups even though both work just fine.

**nibelunc** · 07-09-2012 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Rokien

Seriously if all you people can do is think of dungeons and primal fights? What's the point in the open world.

And these 200 quests they wanna add, you really think they could put good quality in all of them?

That's how I think about it. There is no reason to make grinding useless.
I thought they wanted to make the game feeling more like a Final Fantasy game? :/

**Rokien** · 07-09-2012 07:05 AM

I will be fine if the first job you level is via quests but than have to level your others through grinding on camps and mobs.

Because unlike every other mmo, you can be more than one "class" per char. So, this could work out, though they could add 100 quests for each job....

Though, I really don't wanna see this turn into a solo mmo, that's another thing. Most mmos you can do 90% of these quests solo. At least with camps and parties you are with other people. This is a final fantasy it's about comradery

**SuzakuCMX** · 07-09-2012 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Elexia

In every MMO I've played (Including new ones) people prefer leveling via quests than mob grinding unless the specific MMO is designed in a way you can only level reliably through mob grinding (usually in instanced dungeons.)

So no I've never seen a proper balance between the two because even if it exists, players will choose one route over the other, just like in XIV currently players choose job stacking over varied setups even though both work just fine.

Probably because grinding is boring and outdated.

**Elexia** · 07-09-2012 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Probably because grinding is boring and outdated.

So is doing the 720th iteration of "Help wolves attacked my farm animals!" quest to level up.

**Rokien** · 07-09-2012 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Probably because grinding is boring and outdated.

And questgrinding isn't? Quest grinding is pretty old concept as well, i really don't think that's very "new age" either.

**XxOstiaxX** · 07-09-2012 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Elexia

Yet they're better quality than generic quests found in most MMOs.

Not better than Swotors non generic quests, and only better than Wow's non generic quests by presentation( GC quest look prettier) but they are not more dynamic than either of the other 2.

**LittleBraver** · 07-09-2012 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Elexia

Yet they're better quality than generic quests found in most MMOs.

What the....?

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