Thread: 2.0 Leveling

Originally Posted by Sephrick

I remember people insisted Materia was going to be a carbon copy of WoW's gemming because we got a few nuggets of information and people ran with it.

It would have turned out a little more manageable if it had, IMO. Materia sadly turned out to be Lineage II's enchanting system but with more available stats and you getting nothing back if the enchant/meld fails. At least in Lineage II you got crystals for botched enchants.

Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

quests bring meaning to the game if you want them to do so (by reading them). grinding mobs actually has 0 purpose other than to increase your level, which is a meta-game concept more than anything to a player. there's no attachment to killing random mob X 1000 times to level up. consider that "blah" if you like, but people prefer having direction and immersion while leveling up rather than sitting in town shouting endlessly to get 7 other people to join you on trek to slay 500 coblyns in their home for no in-game reason whatsoever.

This. It's not that hard to see potential to giving the world some actual meaning with quests. Sure, you get the bozos that skip all the text because they're too lazy to read anyway, but still.

Originally Posted by TokyieRage

My question is, If we are leveling up using the storyline, how will we level our second time around? Doubt the Storyline quests are going to be repeatable.

Exactly, which is why I think there's more to it than "Leveling up through storyline" After your first playthrough its like.. okay How do I get exp now? If there's no monsters to kill, How? Quests? Okay How about after those Quests? what then? There will be Open World Monsters to kill.... :/.

There is nothing wrong with XP camps. I enjoyed it in XI and somewhat enjoyed it in XIV. The grind wasn't too bad as long as you didn't do it too much. No reason for them to get rid of it, but to introduce new and better ways to gain XP is fine with me.

Do not remove XP camps Yoshi-P.

I can't tell if it is going to hilarious or heart breaking when this game has another failed launch because they are going to copy everyone out there and have nothing but the Final Fantasy title to stand on since they've abandoned every aspect that gave them a semblance of unique flavor.

Perhaps this is just a way of falling on their sword? Go for the "Big boom" make it or break it gamble that dozens of failed MMO's have tried. If it fails at least they put on a show for the Old Men upstairs. That is what this is all about anyways. SE was just to stubborn to let a FF title flop as hard as it did. A big surge of new players willing to try 2.0 out will pan out in the short term. Just long enough to let it die thereafter without feeling like it was a complete failure.

It is a shame they are too proud or arrogant to go back to their existing/previous FFXI subscribers. I guess if FFXIV cannot be a great success then they'll be damned if it will at least be a mediocre one by returning to what they know works and have a stake in already.

Originally Posted by Zaaku

I can't tell if it is going to hilarious or heart breaking when this game has another failed launch because they are going to copy everyone out there and have nothing but the Final Fantasy title to stand on since they've abandoned every aspect that gave them a semblance of unique flavor.

Perhaps this is just a way of falling on their sword? Go for the "Big boom" make it or break it gamble that dozens of failed MMO's have tried. If it fails at least they put on a show for the Old Men upstairs. That is what this is all about anyways. SE was just to stubborn to let a FF title flop as hard as it did. A big surge of new players willing to try 2.0 out will pan out in the short term. Just long enough to let it die thereafter without feeling like it was a complete failure.

It is a shame they are too proud or arrogant to go back to their existing/previous FFXI subscribers. I guess if FFXIV cannot be a great success then they'll be damned if it will at least be a mediocre one by returning to what they know works and have a stake in already.

It's time like this that I need a dislike button *presses imaginary dislike button*

Nobody cares about FFXI subscribers, not even SE, they want a bigger piece of the pie this time.

Yes this game seems to be melding WoW clone with the Final Fantasy world but thats not a bad thing (unless you hate WoW of course LOL), as long as it retains its identity as a Final Fantasy game with its lore and awesome story telling plus unique monsters and battle systems then whats the big deal.