endwalker was an unacceptable unfished product

[sindriiisgaming]

now please understand, you may not share these sentiments, but they are mine and so valid. they are here to help the game thrive again. not bash it. if you cant understand that this thread may not be for you

its now been exactly 2 years since the (delayed) release of endwalker.
the exasion price was 49.99GBP ( you can translate that in your own currency) and the monthly sub is 7.99. x24 = 191+50 meaning in total weve paid 240 to experience endwalker.

i want to talk, now that the expansion (thankfully) is almost over a

starting with msq - ok look. some wont agree with me here. but i loved 6.0. i really did. but post 6.0 i absolutley hate it. i had been desperate to go to the void since 2.0 alliance raid and the completly ruined it for me. the best character ZERO was absolutley ruined and betrayed at the end by changing her from a rpr to a pld, and her darkness to light. it felt like "build a WOL" not.. accept people for who they are. i absolutley hate the ending golbez got and the four fiends were lierally just wondow shopping from ff4.. even the themes were 1/1. so, honestly.. the post msq. was aweful. not only is it a decline from 6.0 but even arr could be more compelling than this... it felt like it was trying to ride of the writing of other expansions because i had nothing original.

Moving onto the Dungeons. id argue theyre the worst of every expansion; heres why. are they cinematic. yes. pretty. yes. but thats where it ends. you remember shb bosses could literally wipe you if you didnt pay attention.. all the gear in the newer dungeons was all reskinned. the dungeons for 6.1 quest and onward are lets be real BGM to raid to.

The trails. RUBICANTE EX - enough said. only 2 good trails came out of this tier. Barbarriccia EX and Hydaelyn ex, with golbez a close 3rd.

Savages - p3s and p4s are horrible. the glam was nice, unique and worth going for.

P5-8 yea.. ngl this was a failure of a tier. 8 was the only good thing and 8 was hell.

p9-12 okay. look. i hate this tier even more.. i despise it. the gear is ugly. the weapons suck and the bosses are frutstating... 11 was the only good fight

relics - what relics. i guess we got criterion... yey? no. its a repeatable mess that doesnt offer anything unique. the rewards require weeks of savage clears to actually obtain

JOb design - okay this started in shb but i wont act like endwalker didnt make things 100% x worse..the 2 minute meta which i dont hate it. understand why it exists. its created a job rigidity that makes the game feels like a giant dance rehersal...

Community - ugh this is where i feel less and less welcome on this game. its gotten so bad and so toxic.. PF/DF/PVP/Novice/ultimate all seam to have gotten way more toxic than ever before.. i blame this on people leaving out of boredum..

Cash shop - can i bring this up.. it got really bad in Endwalker.. in the last 2 years.. the exploitation and ignorance to players needs. and rediculous charges of items

Island Sanctuary - im bound by character climit. but this content failed. completly.

so overall. compared to shb.. this expansion is honstly just unifhsed.. we really deserved better. there are some things i have liked to expand on but there is a character limit here

[DrWho2010]

ok byeeeeeeeeeeee

[Stormpeaks]

[Doozer]

Yeah SE really should've fished this one. smh my head.

[magtuired]

What a sofishticated post.

[sindriiisgaming]

ok byeeeeeeeeeeee

fam u didnt even read it lmfoa. u cant complain about this game when you dont even care to respet others tryna make it better and IK ive seen u complainin on here bout it. you literally just read the condesned title and are like "oh, criticism. dont care" then dont comment lol.

[Kaurhz]

I mean you're welcome to your opinion at any rate.

All I would say is that I would disagree in saying the community has got real bad... I would just say it has always been this way, to be honest.

Island Sanctuary was nice on a piece of paper -- The only sad part is all the things they should have got right, they didn't... Like they had a very good foundation of it with Ishgard Restoration... Should have involved crafters and gatherers more -- The actual classes, or at the very least provided that choice in a more pronounced fashion... Should have also not been as weekly capped as it were... - I was hoping for something akin to Ishgard Restoration (Island style) -- But instead got a glorified version of the Doman Reconstruction from Stormblood.

Job design - Not my place to speak on, frankly.

Criterion and Variant Dungeon - This seems like they are haunted by past mistakes, and/or fail to actually take to heart the lessons from long, long ago.

Relics are just busywork, to be honest... I mean each to their own... But beyond a point you could say you're paying money to do Seeq and Destroy from Zadnor for the umpteenth time, or that you're doing Delubrum Reginae for the umpteenth time, or doing the raids from ARR for the 200th time, or Castrum Lacus Litore for the 50th time... Eventually loses flare... My only concern with this is that 1-time steps should've been a little more pronounced than just catching up on Manderville.

Dungeons have been reskins for a very very long time, so it's nothing new.. But sure... The majority of them have been very linear, and this is going back a very long time... I mean sure, you could argue that this shouldn't be the case, but the point is that it is nothing new, and honestly is philosophy at this point.

I liked 6.0 story myself, even though I really didn't like some parts of it... 6.1 onwards was pretty meh, but honestly I did expect this given we had just essentially concluded a major arc in the story.

As for the point of the cost, I mean it was your choice and prerogative to pay that much to experience Endwalker.

[Jeeqbit]

post 6.0 i absolutley hate it.

A lot of it was copy and paste from FF4, sure, and in that respect it could have been better. But I enjoyed the fights and visual appeal of the dungeons. Honestly, patches aren't usually much of an adventure anyway. 5.1 and 5.2 were just kinda cleaning up your mess in the First and same in 4.1 and 4.2.

Arguably, they all take us somewhere interesting around the third patch and on, whether it's fighting Tsukuyomi and visiting The Burn and seeing Garlean territories, delving deep into ancient ruins in the tempest and fighting you-know-who in the crystal tower, or visiting the void multiple times, but none of them are quite the same as an expansion and quickly forgotten really.

Moving onto the Dungeons. id argue theyre the worst of every expansion; heres why. are they cinematic. yes. pretty. yes. but thats where it ends. you remember shb bosses could literally wipe you if you didnt pay attention..

The leveling dungeons were as devastating as always. The trash hits hard, I've seen many wipes in Ktisis and The Dead Ends and all of them have had learning involved because I see Returners get hit and die to everything in EW dungeons. They all definitely involve paying attention, so you are probably just used to doing so.

SE even allowed The Dead Ends, The Fell Court of Troia and Lapis Manalis to apply Doom to people who get mechanics wrong.

ShB patch dungeons weren't harder, due to gear like usual.

The trails. RUBICANTE EX - enough said. only 2 good trails came out of this tier. Barbarriccia EX and Hydaelyn ex, with golbez a close 3rd.

My favorites would be Zodiark, The Abyssal Fracture and The Voidcast Daiz. I liked Endsinger and Hydaelyn too. Storm's Crown was good mechanically, just didn't like all the green. Mount Ordeals was fun to learn but it seemed you could get away with not learning it which made it a bit too easy and I didn't like the aesthetic either.

P5-8 yea.. ngl this was a failure of a tier. 8 was the only good thing and 8 was hell.

I liked them all! I almost wish I could keep doing them (without unsyncing) because the music is great.

relics - what relics

Sums it up.

the 2 minute meta which i dont hate it. understand why it exists. its created a job rigidity that makes the game feels like a giant dance rehersal...

It's always been a dance rehearsal. But I think it has been unpopular and could use some adjustments such as being 3 minutes to allow for more job variation. It used to feel better to have more varied cooldowns on DRK.

Island Sanctuary - im bound by character climit. but this content failed

I don't know about failed but I can't personally say I care for it. I'm doing it for the rewards so they will probably see it as a success on that basis.

this expansion is honstly just unifhsed

Not liking an expansion doesn't make it unfinished.

[OgruMogru]

I wouldn't consider it unfinished. I'd actually argue it's entire problem was it was so good at finishing things it forgot about starting anything. I do not believe there has a been a lack of care or effort I just feel like they made a lot of choices for EW that I find bemusing and counter intuitive. This frustrates me because everything I was looking forward to about EW post 6.0 has been a Malformed Beast. Like it's all still there [mostly] and kinda shaped like what I used to really enjoy but just ...off.... in a disquieting and kinda diluted way. All a bit overwatered ribena.

[Xaphire]

Ridiculous*