DT Relic Proposal

[Gullis]

I think that would the best way honestly.

I don't know why relics needs to be something everyone needs to have. Either you do the grind and get it, or you dont. It's optional. By the time it's bis, the game is dead anyway

Considering Yoshi's statement, I won't be suprised if they are just gonna roll with more tomes tho.

I just want something to work for between patches, be it relic or something else.

[StarRosie]

By the time it's bis, the game is dead anyway

In all honesty, this has been one of my regular issues with all the relics. And oh boy, this is going to lead into a hot take.

FFXIV relic weapons until the final step are routinely weaker than multiple other options. Save for HW where the relic was as powerful as the tome weapon at the time. Currently the Augmented Diadochos, the limited tome weapon, the upgraded limited tome weapon, the SUPER upgraded limited tome weapon, Savage, and Zeromus EX weapons are all stronger than the current relic. Which...ya know, for how the current relic is acquired, fine. That's fair. I overall enjoy relic grinds, I VASTLY prefer the HW Anima grind over Eureka and Bozja. And while books are the single most tedious relic step to ever exist, I also prefer the ARR style. But for how long the grinds can be for each step, they do not feel like they actively respect and reward the player's time enough. If we go back to the grindy relics, then they need to be stronger at every step, not just the final step, to respect people's time. I would settle for them being as powerful as the tome weapon (Preferably augmented tome). But overall I would prefer they be as strong as the current tier savage weapon. Will this piss off savage raiders? Absolutely. I don't care though. If I go through something like say, the first one time grind for Bozja's relic, then the grind for the step that grind unlocks (5 runs of DR.), only to receive a weapon weaker than multiple options at that time? That feels like the game spitting in my face. Because, lets be real here, the one time grinds for the bozja relics were miserable affairs and even SE acknowledges this because they nerfed BOTH of them within the week they released!

Ramble aside, I overall just believe the relic steps need to be stronger if they are going to also be long grinds at each step.