DT Relic Proposal

[Hyperia]

I have been thinking about the relic quest and how we can have a compromise on the content.

My idea is to have a more traditional relic grind for the first weapon that starts in 7.1 and continues through 7.5. Yes, I said 7.1 and not start in 7.3 with tomes only. Please start with the first patch and onward, it can’t be that hard.

All additional relics for alt jobs can be purchased via tomes so you do not have to do the story grind again.

Difficulty wise, I would like something similar to HW quests. While I enjoyed the quantity of content for the ARR relic, the RNG was too much.

The purpose of the relic quests is to give us some long term grindy content to keep us busy during the long gaps between patches.

While we know the relics can no longer be the fanciest weapons due to Ultimates, I would like for their glows to be customizable via the second channel dye that is coming in DT.

I do not want the grindy first part to be eliminated when the next expansion comes out because the relic does say, hey, I really put some effort into this and that says something. A relic should be something to be proud of, an achievement, a commitment that says, yes I’m really into this.

[Kuroka]

No actually start em right away at 7.0 or a month after release, not only on 7.1.

Theres no reason to not have more steps to them.

[Hyperia]

No actually start em right away at 7.0 or a month after release, not only on 7.1.

Theres no reason to not have more steps to them.

I’m totally ok with them coming out on the same day the Savage raids come out. That would give the non-savage players something to do.

[ForteNightshade]

I've long thought Criterion was such a massive missed opportunity for relics. Scale the difficulty down so it's more approachable for casual raiding, i.e. make the actual "extreme" mode equivalent they originally advertised and build part of the relic progression into it. You could do the same with Variant but with much smaller rewards to balance the difficulty (which should be higher, tbh). Go the extra mile and let us customize the relics with set bonuses, abilities and all kinds of nonsense borrowing from the Lost Action system. Keep it all contained in V/C content for balance purposes while letting us use it as a regular weapon outside.

And make it relevant throughout the expansion. There's no reason relics should be pretty glamour sticks until the literal last patch of the expansion. Why not make them an option in odd patches? Additionally, yes. Make it available by 7.1 at the absolute latest, though I'm with Kuroka in saying let it release with Savage. It's a tad absurd Endwalker was a year old before we had the only real "grind-y" content available. Considering what it turned out to be, yeah...

[Musashidon]

the true compromise is give a grind for those who want to do it and let everyone else just give tomestones from the beginning.

there is no compromise if one group must let the other have their way. this way both parties get what they want.

i mean unless you want other to be forced to do the boring unoriginal grind.

[Ath192]

How about they make the relic customizable, so you can choose between different hilts, gemstones, glows. Like 4 options per customizable section and make them a decent grind, that way people will be highly incentivized and satisfied to work towards them. And not all will look the same...

[Ardeth]

I like the way it is now. It's something I can passively do, but everyone else hates it. But I like it so I'd vote to not change it at all.

[RitsukoSonoda]

IMO I think it needs to go back to a quest line linked to an Exploratory Zone like Eureka/Bozja but as mentioned have it launch with the actual launch of the expansion and progress/evolve during the full cycle instead of being behind most of the time. The main reason for linking it to exploratory zones is it's honestly the content type they seem to have the best record with in regards to keeping relevant and encouraging players to continually use it even if they are done with or do not have an interest in the relics.

[mallleable]

Just give me a relic quest that does not feel like it's designed for lazy players who actually hate playing the game please.

[VerdeLuck]

I like the way it is now. It's something I can passively do, but everyone else hates it. But I like it so I'd vote to not change it at all.

Yeah it's pretty nice this time around for not forcing you to do either extremely tedious content (ARR/HW) or do Exploratory Zones you don't want to be in (SB/SHB).
I've posted about it on here before but having it earned through the grinding you're already doing in other content is great and freeing, I don't feel like I'm shoehorned into content I don't want to be in. I can go grind whatever content I want and still make progress without having some arbitrary "do 100 fates" or "clear each normal raid series 60 times" kind of tasks that just drag things out for no reason. And I don't have to deal with zones like Bozja and Eureka that die out very quickly.

It's feels good honestly given how bad a lot of relics were in the past.