What would it take to make you unsub from xiv

[Carin-Eri]

Once they let Summoners summon Shiva but rather than doing the cool thing - using the WoL as a vessel so that we transform into Shiva and we can play as Shiva (with a new non-Ysayle, non-Ryne model) - they just let us summon her as a lame external entity just like every other summon and with Ysayle's model.

When that happens I know the devs have become out of touch and no longer care. Shiva has never been an autonomous summon in the story and so she shouldn't be for Summoners either.

It isn't even clear what a non-vessel Shiva would look like, is it?

Saying that, I don't think its an impossible ask - I mean, our character can turn into a Phoenix 'mount' - could that be applied to battle instances?

[Mosselyn]

I'm a satisfied customer with no current plans to unsub. What will make me unsub some day is running out of things I want to do and people I want to do them with. That's about it.

This is not my first rodeo. I know I'll get tired of FF eventually. I played WoW for 5 years, long ago; GW2 for 6; Lotro for 10. I didn't leave any of them as a "bitter vet". I just got bored and moved on.

[hynaku]

All new Final Fantasy MMORPG for pc. I played FFXI for 5 years from when first could start playing it, I played Aion for about 4 years till cheating got so bad on it and played FFXIV since beta to it.

[Rehayem]

The only 3 times I've unsubbed was due to tight money, but there's no other reason why would I want to stop playing FFXIV. The game has its flaws, like any other game, but it's still better than what I've played over the years. If I feel like I'm bored out of my mind, I'll probably take few days off to play something else, and return with a refreshed mind.

[Tahbitha]

There are three possible reasons why I'd unsub to FF XIV:

1. I feel like I've run out of stuff I want to do (not happening any time soon).
2. The game goes offline (really up to SE but doesn't seem likely soon).
3. I go offline (suppose it's inevitable but hopefully not for a while yet).

[Grizzlpaw]

Gunbreaker gets "Simplified".

If they turn it into another 2 minute burst spec with a busy burst and 9000 years of downtime where I do nothing but spam 123 while slowly going insane I WILL Riot.


...Also don't you dare take my healing/utility away. It's one of the few times I get to actively feel like I'm helping.

[Eisi]

It isn't even clear what a non-vessel Shiva would look like, is it?

True, and there shouldn't BE a non-vessel Shiva, not because there technically couldn't be, but for the same reason why we needed a vessel for her on the First - because Shiva in FFXIV = vessel. It's an opportunity for XIV the be unique and if that is discarded then I believe it's because it was either forgotten, aka they stopped caring or it was forgotten how meaningful it is, aka they stopped caring.

Also, imagine how flaccid Eden's excuse would feel if you play it as a Summoner who learned to autonomously summon Shiva on their own.

Saying that, I don't think its an impossible ask - I mean, our character can turn into a Phoenix 'mount' - could that be applied to battle instances?

Shiva has always been summoned in battle instances so yeah, 100%. More than just not an impossible ask I think it's neccessary for her to function like that.

The Phoenix "transformation" is a dumb meta reward for an event and let's be real - it's not a transformation, it's just a shitty moneysaver mount they didn't need to put in the work with to have the WoL actually sit on it. A transformation mount wouldn't have the classic horn blow to summon it, but instead a transformation sequence which they didn't add. Cause it would have cost them. So at the end of the day it's an unusable mount for people who like mounts and people who like transformations both, cause they didn't care putting in the work. They should have never released it in my opinion.

[Erinellza]

I will unsub when the game dies (shut down) or when I die. Let's see which one happens sooner, lol.

[Sebazy]

So tell me. Those upset with the game- what does it need to take for you to unsub

Personally, another Endwalker and I'm out.

I'm hoping that that it either brings more content that I actually enjoy to the table.

Bonus points if SE actually do something to freshen up the gameplay, but I'm not remotely hopeful for that.

[DisasterGayofCrisis]

How they handle the native American-themed content in Dawntrail tbh, if it feels gross like they haven't learned anything even after the community pointed out various issues (Hello BLU mage questline, some tribes and New World outfit set) that would break my patience for the game's setting. They've been told their problems and they need to learn from them.