What would it take to make you unsub from xiv

[Kikoten]

What would make me unsubscribe from FFXIV? I've been thinking about something for a while now, something that's been bugging me, and this is the only post I'm gonna make about it tonight/this morning, before I go to sleep.

At one of the FanFests--I think it was the EU FanFest--unless I'm going crazy, I vaguely remember Yoshi P telling the audience something about, "What we have in store for you in Dawntrail is going to be much better than everything you've seen so far". That wasn't his exact wording, but that is basically what I remember gleaning from his words on stage.

So, having said that, what would make me unsubscribe is if SE doesn't stand and deliver, having raised the already high expectations even higher. I don't know if he said that to generate hype for the brand new story they have in store, or if he truly believes Dawntrail is going to show us something better than everything we saw in the past ten or so years, but I'm expecting something to blast me into next week. Wow me like I've never been wowed before. Because Yoshi said, on stage, that that's what was going to happen.

Okay, joking (or half-joking, really) aside, I think what would really make me unsubscribe is if SE started doing take-backsies like Blizzard did with World of Warcraft's story. "Remember this person who died? Well here's an expansion where we go into an alternate timeline and now they're alive!" Or, if the game becomes bogged down with romance, in order to cater to the shipping community (I love you guys, really, but it's not my thing). If the main story starts getting devoted to a Scion or Scions telling their romantic story, I'm going to wash my hands of it and move on, probably. Not everyone likes romance, and I'm one of those people. Or, more still, if SE decides to make FFXIV free-to-play and earn their money through pay gates and proceed to make everything super redundant. I could probably go on a little further with this, but I'm sleepy, and it's bedtime. Be back later!

[Carin-Eri]

If anything, as daft as it may sound - lack of time due to work and family commitments, some of which are complicated.

I usually manage around hour in-game before work, about 40 minutes at lunchtime and I had been playing in the evening, from around 22:00/22:30 - 01:00 (depending on what content I played).

Unfortunately, fatigue has been winning lately and I rarely manage to stay awake long enough for an evening gaming session. Whether my stamina will improve remains to be seen but I'm not really of the mindset to force myself awake as that leaves me falling asleep at work the following day. And in terms of in-game performance, I end up being useless in any content I play due to being overtired, with the poor reaction speed that comes as a consequence, and actually fell asleep at my PC at least once.

However, whilst I don't think I'll unsub and do love the game, as it stands, the lack of time/energy I'm (un)able to devote to it means that I don't really feel as if I'm getting value for money from my sub and if anything, I guess I'd consider stopping my sub if the situation persists for too long.

[KenZentra]

For me to unsub... Well I've already been planning on it.
Jobs designs, dungeons, mechanics, character progression, and amount of content... they all feel really lackluster nowadays.

Im just doing MINE Coils, then Alexander Savage, and Alliance Raids up to SB. After that I'm done. I'll watch to see if the new classes and reworks are any good, but Im not hopeful. Honestly, if AST got its Cards back, I'd overlook a LOT of stuff and play a fair bit.

Short of it; Gonna unsub anyways, but if DT isn't a crazy overhaul of the game it'll be permanent.

[Mistress_Irika]

What's currently keeping me going after 6+ is pvp and roleplaying. Not the story. Definitely not pve with its simplicity (See previous tank and healer threads.).

If I happen to stop getting engagements (which I'm pretty certain that it's not happening anytime soon) I still have pvp to fall back on.

If the entire of pvp turns into a solo queue only mode and if rank ends up becoming easier to climb than what it is now then I will most likely unsub for good. The thrill of fights is what has kept me logging in for 4 years straight. Having the changes made to where it's easier to not only go to objectives but to afk at them as well while being okay with accepting 2nd place is what's killing my mood to play. The devs can fix stats. They cannot fix player interaction.

[Tsumdere]

It's hard making friends as a male aura. Ppl don't much talk to us for some stupid assumption. I've had ppl literally blacklist me on sight without knowing me because they had a "bad male aura experience" my advise is either hop servers or if u can't. Make an alt on another server and dc. Try to start again... or leave ur fc. Don't give up you're aura though. Not if you really like him

It feels bad in the moment, but it saves you a lot of grief. You would never want to be friends with people who judge you on the race you play. They are just self-reporting that they are assholes at that point.

[Chasingstars]

Or, if the game becomes bogged down with romance, in order to cater to the shipping community (I love you guys, really, but it's not my thing). If the main story starts getting devoted to a Scion or Scions telling their romantic story, I'm going to wash my hands of it and move on, probably. Not everyone likes romance, and I'm one of those people.

Agreed. Romance is fine if it's like a background thing like how it currently is in the game among npcs or with the eternal ceremony thing. Or if it needs to in the forefront, it should have a purpose, like in horror with Edda Pureheart in Palace of the Dead, or in a more comedic way with Hildibrand. Where its more than just the romance itself, and what that can do to actually make the story better. As if its romance simply for the sake of romance, it can feel as a shallow plot element.

[Kikoten]

Agreed. Romance is fine if it's like a background thing like how it currently is in the game among npcs or with the eternal ceremony thing. Or if it needs to in the forefront, it should have a purpose, like in horror with Edda Pureheart in Palace of the Dead, or in a more comedic way with Hildibrand. Where its more than just the romance itself, and what that can do to actually make the story better. As if its romance simply for the sake of romance, it can feel as a shallow plot element.

I saw a sect of FFXIV fans on a site I can't remember--maybe it was the YouTube comment section, that place gets pretty wild--calling for Y'shtola X Runar. I don't personally care if that happens. If so, cool, great for them. Y'shtola is very eager to get back to the First, probably for this reason, and if that brings the whole story back to the First, then I'm all for it. But I'm hoping, for the love of Menphina, Y'shtola doesn't turn into a hopeless freaking romantic all expansion. She probably won't. I'm ranting about this SOLELY because what Yoshi said got under my skin. "It's going to be better."

Better for whom?

[EDIT]: It wouldn't be the first time character roles/personalities got shifted. My friend and I were talking about Alphinaud's change the other night. We liked Alphinaud better before Alisaie showed up.

And to continue with that last little bit I left out of my previous post, and thus returning to the thread's topic, I think yet another thing that would make me unsubscribe from FFXIV is major life changes. I mean, REALLY HUGE life changes. I might unsubscribe for a day or a week. The thread only asked what would make me unsub, not for how long!

[Lunaxia]

I already have. I came back briefly to join in a fight, but I've logged in about three times over the past three or four months.

This game just has nothing left anymore. It's a shadow of what it once was in every respect; gameplay, classes, community, content, writing, story. Despite the clear increase in profit and popularity from ShB's success and ridiculously expensive Mogstation items that you can still only use on a single character, basic issues like Viera/ Hrothgar headgear, the god-awful housing system and bots taking over the marketboard continue to go unaddressed and are now starting to take the piss. The final straw was their attempting to manipulate players into staying subbed during this appalling content drought for fear of losing their homes. It's just disgustingly greedy. Like, EA levels of greedy. They're packing more of a profit than they ever have and and are giving less than ever in return.

But why would they? Why bother continue catering to older fans whining about time and resource heavy issues like jobs and content when they can make piles of money appealing to the low-rent RP crowd who are happy with costumes, stripper poles and dance floors? Why put the effort into crafting decent writing when Estinien doing push-ups generates all the media engagement they could want? It's classic SE behaviour, now they no longer need to pander to fans to keep the subs up.

The game as it was has long gone. It's moved on, and so have I, and in the process remembered that games should be enjoyed, not tolerated.

What would it take to bring me back? Nothing the devs would be prepared to do lol, short of another Dalamud falling on Eorzea.

[Elkanah]

The only thing that would make me unsub is instance housing. And no, not in the bad way. Meaning I could always log in whenever and see my house is still there (kinda like how we already do in xi regardless of time passing) and really only come back when there's new content available for msq, hildi, raids/alliance, and relic weapons. I really only keep my sub and log in every sunday (going inside my house and sending retainers out). If they made instance available, id freely give up my house, get a portion of my gil back, buy an instanced house, and unsub till next series). Otherwise, I have no reason to log in atm.

[Eisi]

Once they let Summoners summon Shiva but rather than doing the cool thing - using the WoL as a vessel so that we transform into Shiva and we can play as Shiva (with a new non-Ysayle, non-Ryne model) - they just let us summon her as a lame external entity just like every other summon and with Ysayle's model.

When that happens I know the devs have become out of touch and no longer care. Shiva has never been an autonomous summon in the story and so she shouldn't be for Summoners either.