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    Yoshia Do Not Work On Other Main Titile Games Please.

    https://www.famitsu.com/news/202312/08325585.html

    In this recent Famitsu Article Yoshida said that he wants to work on another main title with CBU3.

    No. It's been proven that this team cannot manage working on 2 Main Title FF games and make meaningful content for one while fucilitating the other. FF16 has been in development since Heavensward, it wasn't until Shadowbringers that we began feeling the stress of that development, with promises not being met and watching the man crying on stage for his own short comings in that regard. And now Endwalker feeling like a husk in comparison to its sibling expansions. Focus on XIV, Focus on Making this game great, There is a reason CBU1 is the team for Single player games and CBU3 is the MMO devision. Let Nomura do his job in making single player games.


    XIV Deserves Full Time Focus and Full Time Devs and A Full. Time. Director.

    I want this to be the best game it can be, because it's already been the best, bring it back to that.
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    At the risk of sounding like a dev simp, you nor me have the right to tell or force a develpor NOT pursue other projects for both expanding their portfolio and creativity in the gaming field.

    Thats their decision and if Yoshida wants to divert his attention to newer material thats completely fine and as a consumer Im interested to see what him and other staff in the team can come up in the future.

    All I care about is that FFXIV is still properly maintained and while I can still pin responsibility on him as he is the current director Im also blaming the new blood in the team to failing to meet expectactions. Its not even much for me personally, I just want the game to be above average and currently its just....average.
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    If anything this thread post is just as parasocial as any of the people who believe him to be some gaming god.

    I suggest we all stop treating the guy as such and instead do our job as consumers providing feedback and talking with our money if we legit feel like the product isnt worth our time and quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    If anything this thread post is just as parasocial as any of the people who believe him to be some gaming god.

    I suggest we all stop treating the guy as such and instead do our job as consumers providing feedback and talking with our money if we legit feel like the product isnt worth our time and quit.
    Nooooooooooooo. This is me holding him to his job title as the leader of his Creative Unit and Asking him to focus on his business interest the same way I hold Ion and Todd howard to thier Job Interests, There is no parasocial. Just me asking the man to do his job as it should be done.

    Parasocial relationships are one-sided relationships, where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time, and the other party, the persona, is completely unaware of the other's existence

    This is implies I give a damn about what he does outside his job, His Job, What He Is Paid To Do, and choices within impact how I interact with this game. I can care less wtf Yoshida does outside directing this game.

    So let's Not Goal Post Move, Let's focus on Him and The Dev team Focusing On XIV and Making DT and 8.0 Worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Nooooooooooooo. This is me holding him to his job title as the leader of his Creative Unit and Asking him to focus on his business interest the same way I hold Ion and Todd howard to thier Job Interests, There is no parasocial. Just me asking the man to do his job as it should be done.

    Parasocial relationships are one-sided relationships, where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time, and the other party, the persona, is completely unaware of the other's existence

    This is implies I give a damn about what he does outside his job, His Job, What He Is Paid To Do, and choices within impact how I interact with this game. I can care less wtf Yoshida does outside directing this game.

    So let's Not Goal Post Move, Let's focus on Him and The Dev team Focusing On XIV and Making DT and 8.0 Worthwhile.
    I agree and guess what, at this point I ask for Yoshida to take a step back and train and assign a new director while he goes and does his own thing and I bet this is what already has happened in the dev team where theyre's actual people doing the work more than him.

    I dont like the language presented here yelling that he needs to just be bound to FFXIV forever, it sounds super childish and a tad awkward like a poor girl or boy crying out that Papa YoshiP is spending more time doing other things than playing catch with little Jimmy. Its weirdly parasocial to even say thats the issue here. I want him to do a better job at managing the game but shouting that he needs to stop doing other projects is just too silly of an ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I agree and guess what, at this point I ask for Yoshida to take a step back and train and assign a new director while he goes and does his own thing and I bet this is what already has happened in the dev team where theyre's actual people doing the work more than him.

    I dont like the language presented here yelling that he needs to just be bound to FFXIV forever, it sounds super childish. Its weirdly parasocial to even say thats the issue here. I want him to do a better job at managing the game but shouting that he needs to stop doing other projects is just too silly.
    Again you're conflating me being assertive in a forum like this with yelling. No. I'm stating a point a point based within His own shortcomings he felt he had, that he cried for. I am a consumer paying money, if you spend money you have a right to say what you feel is fair for the product you paid for. Para-social implies I care what he does when it is not affecting my product which I pay for. I look at SE has an entity and Yoshida As a worker in Said Entity and XIV as an end user product that could and should be better.

    There is no emotion. This is me saying Working on another product is a bad idea because we have Promised Aspects in ShB, that failed, and EW, being lackluster af, and the work on 16 being a big aspect of that.

    I do not care if you like the language I'm using, I simply want the product to be better. Anything you're feeling, or thinking is irrelavent to that, to this post, and this this products being made better. If you wanna talk about feelings you can try another post or someone else in the XIV community.

    Now back to my main point.

    Working. On.Two. Games. Is. Not. CBU3s. Strong. Suit.

    Don't Do it again.
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    You are right OP, don't mind the other poster too much it's their forté to do exactly what they're doing.

    EW was an absolute bore thanks to FF16 being in the work and a team that did mediocre content, let's not do that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You are right OP, don't mind the other poster too much it's their forté to do exactly what they're doing.

    EW was an absolute bore thanks to FF16 being in the work and a team that did mediocre content, let's not do that again.
    Yeah cuz I didn't know giving feed back about how the Director/Shareholder goes about working in the company and how it affects products isn't feed back.


    You know the feed back he asked for? Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    No. It's been proven that this team cannot manage working on 2 Main Title FF games and make meaningful content for one while fucilitating the other.
    They were working on FF16 since Heavensward, so you would have to argue that we have never had much content for FF14. Is that what you are arguing?

    FF16 has been in development since Heavensward
    You even agree with me.

    it wasn't until Shadowbringers that we began feeling the stress of that development
    We saw a few cuts: the allied beast tribe and DSR, and a delay before one of the major patches and before Endwalker release. This was obviously all related to Covid-19 not FF16.

    Can you explain how we began to see the stress of FF16 in Shadowbringers? We had all the stages of Ishgard Restoration, Ocean Fishing, Bozja, CLL, Zadnor, Dalriada, Delubrum Reginae, Delubrum Reginae Savage, all 12 savage floors, the usual 7 extremes, an extra extreme, the usual 3 alliance raids, the usual beast tribes, the usual leveling dungeons and trials as part of the expansion release and The Epic of Alexander (Ultimate).

    watching the man crying on stage for his own short comings in that regard.
    Wasn't that just in a live letter seat and it was relating to the Endwalker release date?

    XIV Deserves Full Time Focus and Full Time Devs and A Full. Time. Director.
    The only people I know are working on both are Soken and Koji. Soken works on the music for both while Koji still does vocals and lends dragon voice advice for FF14.

    Yoshi-P isn't even directing FF16; he is just the producer ie. just handling the spreadsheet, finances and employment. The day-to-day creative stuff is handled by another person.
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    I'm still not convinced that FFXVI had as much of an effect on FFXIV as people argue it did. Is EW objectively the worst FFXIV expansion? If you think yes, then what's your evidence? Time between patches? Story quality? amount of casual/midcore/hardcore content? job design? Do any of those prove if one expansion is better than the other? And if it's not the worst, then I'm not sure how you can say that FFXVI was a terrible thing that took away from FFXIV when other expansions were worse without a side game.

    And this is from someone that didn't like FFXVI at all.
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