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    The biggest hurdle to hitting crystal is...

    Not getting queues.

    For days now, the queue just sits forever.

    I only first started getting but a handful of games last night, for a batch of 5 games, and then the queue immediately died again.
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    It's late in the season, this is normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    It's late in the season, this is normal.
    So why smash casual over ranked if neither matter at this point?

    Logic doesn't check out.

    inb4 faulty logic - "Casual is easier and more enjoyable for higher ranked chars!"

    Except not, because nobody likes playing with bots, afkers, and low-efforts in casual. That's a last resort. Ranked sorts that out the higher you go.

    Yet here we are, casual queue overwhelmed, and Ranked barren.
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    Last edited by yaba_gabagool; 12-11-2023 at 01:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    So why smash casual over ranked if neither matter at this point?

    Logic doesn't check out.

    inb4 faulty logic - "Casual is easier and more enjoyable for higher ranked chars!"

    Except not, because nobody likes playing with bots, afkers, and low-efforts in casual. That's a last resort. Ranked sorts that out the higher you go.

    Yet here we are, casual queue overwhelmed, and Ranked barren.
    in ranked theres consequence to losing so it does matter more than casual, some might not wanna risk their rank or are tired of losing so they wait till next season or they got to the rank they wanted, i stayed plat for season 1-4 for alliteration purposes and now im always playing(aside from the days that i cant) because cc is challenging, its because casual offers nothing to lose and alot to gain, that its more active than ranked also its just as ivolke said, the logic checks out fine when you put more thought into it, i would prefer if the rank reset every season but unfortunately that probably wont happen
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    Have you considered just queuing for ranked with more skill? Just do it better.
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    It's the usual, there's handful of regulars tackling ranks early season and having last minute games at very end of the season.

    There's nothing worthwhile for your average player to queue up for, most of the rewards are one and done.

    I miss Season 1 grindfest with tons of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    in ranked theres consequence to losing so it does matter more than casual, some might not wanna risk their rank or are tired of losing so they wait till next season or they got to the rank they wanted, i stayed plat for season 1-4 for alliteration purposes and now im always playing(aside from the days that i cant) because cc is challenging, its because casual offers nothing to lose and alot to gain, that its more active than ranked also its just as ivolke said, the logic checks out fine when you put more thought into it, i would prefer if the rank reset every season but unfortunately that probably wont happen
    What consequence? You go down in ranks until you're at the bottom of that tier and then nothing happens?

    Also, you also drop ranks from inactivity so there's that too. Other people outclimb your spot.

    Please, the only real consequence is when you're trying to climb out of diamond and into crystal, where you can actually drop ranked tiers.

    Other than that it's literally just a numbers game.

    I'm climbing on pld right now, and it's just the numbers that matter until Diamond +.

    People just have a bad perception in their mind, or they're trying to mask an ego.

    You're going to lose, get over it, it's part of the climb. You just gotta outlast the bad matches.
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    Last edited by yaba_gabagool; 12-11-2023 at 12:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    What consequence? You go down in ranks until you're at the bottom and then nothing happens?

    Please, the only real consequence is when you're trying to climb out of diamond and into crystal, where you can actually drop ranked tiers.

    Other than that it's literally just a numbers game.

    I'm climbing on pld right now, and it's just the numbers that matter until Diamond +.

    People just have a bad perception in their mind, or they're trying to mask an ego.

    You're going to lose, get over it, it's part of the climb. You just gotta outlast the bad matches.
    if you think its just about one's rank then you really gotta think more about the facets of the state of ranked activity, i stated rank as just one example but theres a plethora, not everyone has the time or interest in the "numbers game" , so a loss that results in 5-20 min per match and not counting que time is enough for some to to not play in what some might think as waste of time compared to casual where again theres nothing to lose and alot to gain,

    also if youre goin into the mindset of "just a numbers game" you probably wont make it that far, its more than just that, theres timing of what and when to use your toolkit as well as team combos and positioning, baiting , blocking ect

    i dont know where youre getting this "ego" psycho analytic from but its defo a bit of stretch compared to the more obvious answer that its late in the season and there are other things to do with ones time
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    if you think its just about one's rank then you really gotta think more about the facets of the state of ranked activity, i stated rank as just one example but theres a plethora, not everyone has the time or interest in the "numbers game" , so a loss that results in 5-20 min per match and not counting que time is enough for some to to not play in what some might think as waste of time compared to casual where again theres nothing to lose and alot to gain,

    also if youre goin into the mindset of "just a numbers game" you probably wont make it that far, its more than just that, theres timing of what and when to use your toolkit as well as team combos and positioning, baiting , blocking ect

    i dont know where youre getting this "ego" psycho analytic from but its defo a bit of stretch compared to the more obvious answer that its late in the season and there are other things to do with ones time

    No it literally is just a numbers game.

    Balancing is done based on win ratios, just like their crappy frontline system. Your ability to carry your team is limited, especially in this garbo system unless you're one of the super strong power classes (DRK, NIN, DRG, SAM, MCH - BLM is a meme).

    There is no penalty to losing other than dropping a series if you're Diamond +, or dropping that current rank within your tier.

    It's literally as straight forward as that.

    I've done diamond + on 5 difference characters, in multiple seasons.

    How many have you done?
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    Last edited by yaba_gabagool; 12-11-2023 at 01:43 PM.

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    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    No it literally is just a numbers game.

    Balancing is done based on win ratios, just like their crappy frontline system. Your ability to carry your team is limited, especially in this garbo system unless you're one of the super strong power classes (DRK, NIN, DRG, MCH - BLM is a meme).

    There is no penalty to losing other than dropping a series if you're Diamond +, or dropping that current rank within your tier.

    It's literally as straight forward as that.

    I've done diamond + on 5 difference characters, in multiple seasons.

    How many have you done?
    in the words of The Dude "Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man."

    if you wanna keep this mentality then good luck in your ranked endeavors, im not gonna have a pissing match of who has/had a higher rank
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